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Should I start planning to move money from my SIPP to ISAs?

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  • Triumph13
    Triumph13 Posts: 1,986 Forumite
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    If you are in (or move to) a modern scheme that allows you to just put part of your overall fund into FAD, UFPLS is essentially just a special case of FAD.

    UPFLS is simple because it's a one stage process: "Please crystalise X amount of my fund and pay me 25% tax free and all the rest as taxable income"

    FAD is more complicated as it's a two stage process: 1) "Please crystalise X amount of my fund, pay me 25% tax free and put 75% in a drawdown fund"; followed by  2)"Please pay me Y amount of taxable income from my drawdown funds"

    UFPLS is easier, but it only works well if you are happy that it gives you the correct amount of both tax free and taxable withdrawals.  If you want to get more tax free cash than 1/3rd of the taxable income you want to take, then UFPLS won't let you do that.  FAD will.

    You could do it all via UFPLS in your case, it would just slow the rate of getting the money rehomed in an ISA.  No big deal, unless you are worried about the availability of ISA allowance in the future, or exceeding the overall limit for tax free cash if your funds grow / the limit is cut.
  • WitsEnd101
    WitsEnd101 Posts: 34 Forumite
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    Thank you all and specifically Triumph for the clear and detailed guidance. 

    I am going to crunch some numbers using both UFPLS and FAD to set up a withdrawl / transfer strategy. I will also come back in Feb with an update on whether I decided to fully retire and trigger MPAA or otherwise.
  • Albermarle
    Albermarle Posts: 28,167 Forumite
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    Thank you all and specifically Triumph for the clear and detailed guidance. 

    I am going to crunch some numbers using both UFPLS and FAD to set up a withdrawl / transfer strategy. I will also come back in Feb with an update on whether I decided to fully retire and trigger MPAA or otherwise.
    In many circumstances there is little/nothing to choose between UFPLS and FAD. However if you want to set up regular monthly payments, this can be done via FAD more easily, just because many providers are not set up for regular UFPLS payments, they are seen more as a way of taking irregular lump sums.
    Not sure if it has been mentioned, but with either case you might well find the pension provider takes more tax off than you expect. However you can claim it back, or it will resolve itself through the tax system eventually.
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