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Car Finance - New or Old?

tintin_1929
tintin_1929 Posts: 27 Forumite
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Hi Everyone,

I need a new/new to me car.  Looking around at the offers and getting a bit confused.  Here are my options:

Option 1
Buy New
60k Vehicle purchase price / 10k miles per annum
0% interest on PCP
£13k downpayment
£500 per month

Option 2
Buy Second Hand
55k Vehicle purchase price / 10k miles per annum
~10% interest on PCP (approx as it depends on vehicle and finance offered)
£13k downpayment
~£500 per month (approx as it depends on vehicle and finance offered)
(Option 2 means the car comes with around 3k to 5k miles)


Right, so on paper, and in a world where depreciation isn't a factor, it seems to me that Option 1 is the best way to go. However, we live in a world where this 'asset' ( :D ) will depreciate.

Depreciation being a factor and depreciation being linked to the make/model/year/miles/etc, I'm confused.... which is the better option to go for? How do I figure out which is best?

Sorry for the stupid question!
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  • born_again
    born_again Posts: 20,676 Forumite
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    Don't buy 2nd hand on PCP
    Many posts where people have, car is out of warranty & needs expensive work... No choice but to pay & get done. As you can't return car.
    Life in the slow lane
  • eschaton
    eschaton Posts: 2,103 Forumite
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    You didn’t list option 3 - something that you can possibly afford?


  • Ayr_Rage
    Ayr_Rage Posts: 2,842 Forumite
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    I agree with @born_again, don't have a PCP agreement that runs beyond the manufacturer's warranty period.

    What is you plan at the end of the PCP?
  • Nasqueron
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    If you wanted to buy the car to run to the ground, depreciation can safely be ignored, it's not a cost, it's simply something being worth less as you use it like anything. If you want to keep the car for 3-4 years and trade in for more finance (not the MSE way) then 2nd hand at least had the hit already.

    I agree with the others, why do you need to spend £55-60k on a car you can't afford to buy outright and need to pay potentially huge interest on? Buy a £20k car and save yourself £40k

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

  • tintin_1929
    tintin_1929 Posts: 27 Forumite
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    eschaton said:
    You didn’t list option 3 - something that you can possibly afford?


    I can afford it... ? Hence why I'm looking.
  • tintin_1929
    tintin_1929 Posts: 27 Forumite
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    Ayr_Rage said:
    I agree with @born_again, don't have a PCP agreement that runs beyond the manufacturer's warranty period.

    What is you plan at the end of the PCP?
    Planning to get into the cycle of using the car as a down payment for the next PCP purchase in 4 years time.
  • eschaton
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    eschaton said:
    You didn’t list option 3 - something that you can possibly afford?


    I can afford it... ? Hence why I'm looking.
    If you could afford it you wouldn’t have to pay £500pm. 

    Do you mean you can afford to borrow the car?




  • tintin_1929
    tintin_1929 Posts: 27 Forumite
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    Nasqueron said:
    If you wanted to buy the car to run to the ground, depreciation can safely be ignored, it's not a cost, it's simply something being worth less as you use it like anything. If you want to keep the car for 3-4 years and trade in for more finance (not the MSE way) then 2nd hand at least had the hit already.

    I agree with the others, why do you need to spend £55-60k on a car you can't afford to buy outright and need to pay potentially huge interest on? Buy a £20k car and save yourself £40k
    Thanks. I think I got the answer in the latter part of the bolded sentence; the large part of the depreciation is done in a second hand car. 

    Appreciate this isn't the MSE way but for my lifestyle as a disabled car guy (who doesn't qualify for PIP), it suits me better to have a monthly rolling cost to have a new(ish) car every 3 or 4 years with a monthly payment.  
  • tintin_1929
    tintin_1929 Posts: 27 Forumite
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    eschaton said:
    eschaton said:
    You didn’t list option 3 - something that you can possibly afford?


    I can afford it... ? Hence why I'm looking.
    If you could afford it you wouldn’t have to pay £500pm. 

    Do you mean you can afford to borrow the car?




    I really don't understand what you're asking. Also unsure if you're being rude so I won't be answering, but instead thank you for your time and ask you to move on to someone you could better help. Thanks.
  • Ayr_Rage
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    Ayr_Rage said:
    I agree with @born_again, don't have a PCP agreement that runs beyond the manufacturer's warranty period.

    What is you plan at the end of the PCP?
    Planning to get into the cycle of using the car as a down payment for the next PCP purchase in 4 years time.
    Trying to predict if the vehicle is going to be worth more than the balloon payment in 4 years is not going to be easy, especially with K.Smarmer, R.Thieves and Co moving the EV discount goalposts right now.

    There's always a chance that you find you have no equity at the end of the deal.

    At least with the 0% PCP you aren't paying interest.

    However as I said previously, I wouldn't want to have a car that is out of warranty on a PCP agreement.
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