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Old unenforceable debt sold to resolve

MammaOftwo
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Hello, not too sure what to do here so hoping for some advice.
I defaulted on a Virgin CC in 2020 and went onto a DMP with Stepchange, the debt was passed to Arrow Global/Capquest and in Sept 2021 I sent them a CCA request which they were unable to fulfil so I stopped paying via Stepchange in Dec 2021 and i didn't correspond with them further after my CCA request.
A few weeks ago Capquest wrote to me and said that they were passing the debt to Resolvecall (who I think are still part of Capquest) - I had a letter from Resolvecall telling me I had 7 days to get in touch as they have been instructed to collect the outstanding balance and I ignored it, possibly not the brightest of me but I wasn't sure what to do and then they sent a collector to knock on my door - I refused to answer any of his questions and he couldn't mention the debt without me confirming my personal details so he left and later posted a card through the door asking me to call Resolvecall.
So should I send a prove it letter to Resolvecall? Or a letter telling them that its unenforceable? I don't want to reset the 6 year clock.
I defaulted on a Virgin CC in 2020 and went onto a DMP with Stepchange, the debt was passed to Arrow Global/Capquest and in Sept 2021 I sent them a CCA request which they were unable to fulfil so I stopped paying via Stepchange in Dec 2021 and i didn't correspond with them further after my CCA request.
A few weeks ago Capquest wrote to me and said that they were passing the debt to Resolvecall (who I think are still part of Capquest) - I had a letter from Resolvecall telling me I had 7 days to get in touch as they have been instructed to collect the outstanding balance and I ignored it, possibly not the brightest of me but I wasn't sure what to do and then they sent a collector to knock on my door - I refused to answer any of his questions and he couldn't mention the debt without me confirming my personal details so he left and later posted a card through the door asking me to call Resolvecall.
So should I send a prove it letter to Resolvecall? Or a letter telling them that its unenforceable? I don't want to reset the 6 year clock.
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Capquest own the debt, the only part Resolvecall play in all of this is to re-connect you to Capquest, nothing more, they haven't bought the debt, they don`t buy debts, they are simply a 3rd party collection agent engaged by the creditor to connect with you, they have zero credibility and just as much authority.
You did exactly the right thing by not complying with their requests, continue to do that.
The debt is currently unenforceable under sec 77 CCA 1978, and has been since they could not comply with your CCA request.
You should just ignore them both unless they try to take you to court, they have until 2027 to do that, a letter before action is the prelude to this, and must be sent under civil procedure rules.
Any written correspondence will, as you say, re-set the limitation clock, we don`t normally advise phoning debt collectors, but if you are confident enough to call and tell them the debt is unenforceable and why, and not to bother you again until they can supply what they were supposed too originally, you know, mess with their minds a little, that would be fine.
Otherwise continue to do nothing, nada, zilch.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter0 -
Thanks Sourcrates, i'll give them a call on Monday.0
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sourcrates said:Capquest own the debt, the only part Resolvecall play in all of this is to re-connect you to Capquest, nothing more, they haven't bought the debt, they don`t buy debts, they are simply a 3rd party collection agent engaged by the creditor to connect with you, they have zero credibility and just as much authority.
You did exactly the right thing by not complying with their requests, continue to do that.
The debt is currently unenforceable under sec 77 CCA 1978, and has been since they could not comply with your CCA request.
You should just ignore them both unless they try to take you to court, they have until 2027 to do that, a letter before action is the prelude to this, and must be sent under civil procedure rules.
Any written correspondence will, as you say, re-set the limitation clock, we don`t normally advise phoning debt collectors, but if you are confident enough to call and tell them the debt is unenforceable and why, and not to bother you again until they can supply what they were supposed too originally, you know, mess with their minds a little, that would be fine.
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Brie said:I didn't think it was "any" written correspondence but rather written correspondence that includes an admission that the debt was the OP's. As far as I'm aware there would be no admission if the OP wrote saying "prove to me there is a debt by providing me with the CCA" or similar. They weren't able to provide it before so they are unlikely to magic it up now.
No point sending prove-it letter as liability is not in doubt.
Any dispute raised with Resolvecall will only result in them returning the debt to Capquest as they won`t want to deal with it, and are not worth wasting time on to be fair.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter0
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