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Help! Unaffordable loan advice

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  • poppasmurf_bewdley
    poppasmurf_bewdley Posts: 5,937 Forumite
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    A Consolidated Loan is usually the course of last resort.  I know, I've been there, done that and got the T-shirt. Consolidation Loans are usually more expensive than normal loans because the lender knows your situation.

    It may be that at the end of the day, bankruptcy may be the best thing for you, but only you will know this.  
    "There are not enough superlatives in the English language to describe a 'Princess Coronation' locomotive in full cry. We shall never see their like again". O S Nock
  • Sarsibob1
    Sarsibob1 Posts: 7 Forumite
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    I guess the main question is

    What were your outgoings prior to the loan being taken (32k of debts)
    what were your outgoings after the loan was taken (with 25k of debts being settled and 7k of the old debt remaining)
    Was the interest rate on the new debt lower than the interest rates on the debts being cleared?

    If post consolidation your outgoings were lower than before the consolidation then I don't see how this is admirals fault. Similarly if you told them you were going to pay off debts and didn't do it then again I don't see how that is their fault.

  • ManyWays
    ManyWays Posts: 1,454 Forumite
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    If post consolidation your outgoings were lower than before the consolidation then I don't see how this is admirals fault
    The fact that outgoings were lower does NOT mean they are affordable as they may just be a bit less unaffordable. This is pretty common with consolidation; what sounds cheaper is not in practice manageable, so the cards are used again to get by. 
  • Sarsibob1
    Sarsibob1 Posts: 7 Forumite
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    But using the op's figures

    They were paying £1000 a month for 25k of borrowing before admiral got involved
    Now they are paying £711 a month for 25k

    The 25k borrowing existed before admiral got involved just owed to another provider at a more expensive payment. By lending them 25k and consolidating their debt the op owes the same money just at £300 a month cheaper than they would have done previously. It isn't new debt (unless the op didn't pay off the debt as they were supposed to)

  • ManyWays
    ManyWays Posts: 1,454 Forumite
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    It is a new loan from Admiral and so Admiral should have checked that the borrower could afford to pay £711 a month if they used the loan to consolidate.  

    This may have been affordable, but its easily possible that it wasnt, as the poster said "when I took my car and other loans I was earning almost double my wage so got into a little pickle! "
    In which case the borrower may win an affordability complaint. 
  • Sarsibob1
    Sarsibob1 Posts: 7 Forumite
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    but if admiral had said no then the poster would have been left paying £300 more a month - how does that scenario make things more affordable?
  • ManyWays
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    Sarsibob1 said:
    but if admiral had said no then the poster would have been left paying £300 more a month - how does that scenario make things more affordable?
    Because then the poster could have looked at other options such as a debt management plan that gets all the interest stopped. 

    There is nothing in the regulators' rules that says its ok to give someone an unaffordable loan just because it isn't quite as bad as the previous cards. If this is what happened, then Admiral should not have given the loan the the poster may win their complaint.
  • retiredbanker1
    retiredbanker1 Posts: 743 Forumite
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    If I have read the whole story - Admiral refused the first application so the OP must have appealed - the lender asked for additional information which was submitted and they agreed to the loan.
    This manual intervention makes the OP's claim less ''truthful'' to me unless of course there were porkies told on the application.

    I do hope the OP gets a resolution but claiming unaffordability IMO is a bit strong.
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