Ready, steady… save!
You don’t need a chart to join in. Here are 2 ways to record your savings:
1. Cross it off
Pop a chart into your first post. Saved an amount? Cross it out! Read more »
£0.01 £0.02 £0.03
2. Write it down
Skip the chart and add updates to your first post. Read more »
“Another +£3 saved today. Go me!”
Use +£ before each new saving so it counts towards your total.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
Work payment changes
Comments
-
what makes you think this has implications for the P60 or indeed the total amount of Tax and NI paid , unless in the case of NI we are talking aobut the edge cases previous discussed , i really do think you are tilting at windmills with this anglechrisbur said:The P60 includes all paydays that fall in the period from 6 April one year to 5 April the following year inclusive.
Old payday 27th new payday 11th.
Th OP has advised....
"At this moment, our last pay is going to be on September 27th and the next time we will get paid is on 11th November"
The OPs paydays will be....
27/04
27/05
27/06
27/07
27/08
27/09
11/11
11/12
11/01
11/02
11/03
Total number of paydays 11
The employees will get the full months tax allowance as I said but the taxable pay for the year will be made up of these 11 payments.
<snip>
"your earnings for the tax year will be 1950 * the pay rate when you are paid weekly, fortnightly, lunar or calendar"
How does that account for when an employee has occasionally 53, 54 or 56 weeks in the tax year? ...
0 -
The P60 will be the total taxable pay for the 11 paydays, not the 12 paydays it would have been had the payday not been changed.EnPointe said:
what makes you think this has implications for the P60 or indeed the total amount of Tax and NI paid , unless in the case of NI we are talking aobut the edge cases previous discussed , i really do think you are tilting at windmills with this anglechrisbur said:The P60 includes all paydays that fall in the period from 6 April one year to 5 April the following year inclusive.
Old payday 27th new payday 11th.
Th OP has advised....
"At this moment, our last pay is going to be on September 27th and the next time we will get paid is on 11th November"
The OPs paydays will be....
27/04
27/05
27/06
27/07
27/08
27/09
11/11
11/12
11/01
11/02
11/03
Total number of paydays 11
The employees will get the full months tax allowance as I said but the taxable pay for the year will be made up of these 11 payments.
<snip>
"your earnings for the tax year will be 1950 * the pay rate when you are paid weekly, fortnightly, lunar or calendar"
How does that account for when an employee has occasionally 53, 54 or 56 weeks in the tax year? ...
Tax and NI will be the total of that which was deducted from those 11 paydays.
If it's a windmill and it's wrong I tilt.0 -
which in the vastest majority of cases will be exactly the same ...chrisbur said:
The P60 will be the total taxable pay for the 11 paydays, not the 12 paydays it would have been had the payday not been changed.EnPointe said:
what makes you think this has implications for the P60 or indeed the total amount of Tax and NI paid , unless in the case of NI we are talking aobut the edge cases previous discussed , i really do think you are tilting at windmills with this anglechrisbur said:The P60 includes all paydays that fall in the period from 6 April one year to 5 April the following year inclusive.
Old payday 27th new payday 11th.
Th OP has advised....
"At this moment, our last pay is going to be on September 27th and the next time we will get paid is on 11th November"
The OPs paydays will be....
27/04
27/05
27/06
27/07
27/08
27/09
11/11
11/12
11/01
11/02
11/03
Total number of paydays 11
The employees will get the full months tax allowance as I said but the taxable pay for the year will be made up of these 11 payments.
<snip>
"your earnings for the tax year will be 1950 * the pay rate when you are paid weekly, fortnightly, lunar or calendar"
How does that account for when an employee has occasionally 53, 54 or 56 weeks in the tax year? ...
Tax and NI will be the total of that which was deducted from those 11 paydays.
If it's a windmill and it's wrong I tilt.0 -
Can you explain how 11 paydays can be the same as 12 paydays.EnPointe said:
which in the vastest majority of cases will be exactly the same ...chrisbur said:
The P60 will be the total taxable pay for the 11 paydays, not the 12 paydays it would have been had the payday not been changed.EnPointe said:
what makes you think this has implications for the P60 or indeed the total amount of Tax and NI paid , unless in the case of NI we are talking aobut the edge cases previous discussed , i really do think you are tilting at windmills with this anglechrisbur said:The P60 includes all paydays that fall in the period from 6 April one year to 5 April the following year inclusive.
Old payday 27th new payday 11th.
Th OP has advised....
"At this moment, our last pay is going to be on September 27th and the next time we will get paid is on 11th November"
The OPs paydays will be....
27/04
27/05
27/06
27/07
27/08
27/09
11/11
11/12
11/01
11/02
11/03
Total number of paydays 11
The employees will get the full months tax allowance as I said but the taxable pay for the year will be made up of these 11 payments.
<snip>
"your earnings for the tax year will be 1950 * the pay rate when you are paid weekly, fortnightly, lunar or calendar"
How does that account for when an employee has occasionally 53, 54 or 56 weeks in the tax year? ...
Tax and NI will be the total of that which was deducted from those 11 paydays.
If it's a windmill and it's wrong I tilt.
Just to be clear I am not saying that this always happens; only that it will happen in this case. The payday has been moved forward in this case so that tax month 7 which runs from 6/10 to 5/11 will be missed out. That means the end of tax year taxable gross will have only 11 paydays in it.0 -
because Income Tax is calculated across the tax yearchrisbur said:
Can you explain how 11 paydays can be the same as 12 paydays.EnPointe said:
which in the vastest majority of cases will be exactly the same ...chrisbur said:
The P60 will be the total taxable pay for the 11 paydays, not the 12 paydays it would have been had the payday not been changed.EnPointe said:
what makes you think this has implications for the P60 or indeed the total amount of Tax and NI paid , unless in the case of NI we are talking aobut the edge cases previous discussed , i really do think you are tilting at windmills with this anglechrisbur said:The P60 includes all paydays that fall in the period from 6 April one year to 5 April the following year inclusive.
Old payday 27th new payday 11th.
Th OP has advised....
"At this moment, our last pay is going to be on September 27th and the next time we will get paid is on 11th November"
The OPs paydays will be....
27/04
27/05
27/06
27/07
27/08
27/09
11/11
11/12
11/01
11/02
11/03
Total number of paydays 11
The employees will get the full months tax allowance as I said but the taxable pay for the year will be made up of these 11 payments.
<snip>
"your earnings for the tax year will be 1950 * the pay rate when you are paid weekly, fortnightly, lunar or calendar"
How does that account for when an employee has occasionally 53, 54 or 56 weeks in the tax year? ...
Tax and NI will be the total of that which was deducted from those 11 paydays.
If it's a windmill and it's wrong I tilt.
Just to be clear I am not saying that this always happens; only that it will happen in this case. The payday has been moved forward in this case so that tax month 7 which runs from 6/10 to 5/11 will be missed out. That means the end of tax year taxable gross will have only 11 paydays in it.
it doesn;t matter if you have 52/53 pay days ( weekly) , 26 pay days (fortnightly) , 13 pay days (lunar) , 12 pay days (calendar) or 11 pay days ... the taxable icome is the same the personal allowance is the same
there are issues where NI might vary by a small amount ( edge case with very low paid, edge case where the 'long month' means that someone tips over the UEL for that pay period ...
P60 does not mention the number of pay days ...
0 -
Tax is certainly calculated across the tax year.EnPointe said:
because Income Tax is calculated across the tax yearchrisbur said:
Can you explain how 11 paydays can be the same as 12 paydays.EnPointe said:
which in the vastest majority of cases will be exactly the same ...chrisbur said:
The P60 will be the total taxable pay for the 11 paydays, not the 12 paydays it would have been had the payday not been changed.EnPointe said:
what makes you think this has implications for the P60 or indeed the total amount of Tax and NI paid , unless in the case of NI we are talking aobut the edge cases previous discussed , i really do think you are tilting at windmills with this anglechrisbur said:The P60 includes all paydays that fall in the period from 6 April one year to 5 April the following year inclusive.
Old payday 27th new payday 11th.
Th OP has advised....
"At this moment, our last pay is going to be on September 27th and the next time we will get paid is on 11th November"
The OPs paydays will be....
27/04
27/05
27/06
27/07
27/08
27/09
11/11
11/12
11/01
11/02
11/03
Total number of paydays 11
The employees will get the full months tax allowance as I said but the taxable pay for the year will be made up of these 11 payments.
<snip>
"your earnings for the tax year will be 1950 * the pay rate when you are paid weekly, fortnightly, lunar or calendar"
How does that account for when an employee has occasionally 53, 54 or 56 weeks in the tax year? ...
Tax and NI will be the total of that which was deducted from those 11 paydays.
If it's a windmill and it's wrong I tilt.
Just to be clear I am not saying that this always happens; only that it will happen in this case. The payday has been moved forward in this case so that tax month 7 which runs from 6/10 to 5/11 will be missed out. That means the end of tax year taxable gross will have only 11 paydays in it.
it doesn;t matter if you have 52/53 pay days ( weekly) , 26 pay days (fortnightly) , 13 pay days (lunar) , 12 pay days (calendar) or 11 pay days ... the taxable icome is the same the personal allowance is the same ...
P60 does not mention the number of pay days ...
It certainly does matter when you get 53 tax weeks ( or 54 in the case of fortnightly or 56 in the case of four weekly pay). The PAYE system mostly does not take enough tax and those employees get a tax code adjustment for a following tax year to collect the extra tax.
P60 records the total taxable pay whatever the number of weeks or months.
Regarding the personal allowance I never said that was not the same, I pointed out that the tax deducted from month 8 would be lower due to that month having two monthly tax allowances.1
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply
Categories
- All Categories
- 355.9K Banking & Borrowing
- 255K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 456.2K Spending & Discounts
- 248.4K Work, Benefits & Business
- 606.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 179K Life & Family
- 263.9K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
- 37.7K Read-Only Boards
