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Salary sacrifice car

richard2622
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edited 31 July at 1:45PM in Cutting tax
I’m currently salary just under £90k per year but with overtime and bonus I’m regularly hitting £130k+ per year. My employer has recently started a salary sacrifice scheme for cars. I have seen a vehicle I’m interested in and have an online quote but the price seems different to what I’ve worked it out using a salary calculator. Online using the car provider it quotes £983 monthly net amount. But as stated using an online salary calculator and putting in the figures for salary sacrifice it works out considerably cheaper. Is there a way to calculate what the true figure every month will be or is this not possible as the extra wage is bonus/overtime related? 

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  • Muttleythefrog
    Muttleythefrog Posts: 20,463 Forumite
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    Probably not the best board for advice... this is for social security benefits. Suggest moving but not sure best board.. perhaps https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/categories/employment-jobseeking-training
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  • HillStreetBlues
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    I agree not the correct board, but maybe the better board is https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/categories/cutting-tax as normally that's the intention of SS

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  • Grumpy_chap
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    I’m currently salary just under £90k per year but with overtime and bonus I’m regularly hitting £130k+ per year. My employer has recently started a salary sacrifice scheme for cars. I have seen a vehicle I’m interested in and have an online quote but the price seems different to what I’ve worked it out using a salary calculator. Online using the car provider it quotes £983 monthly net amount. But as stated using an online salary calculator and putting in the figures for salary sacrifice it works out considerably cheaper. Is there a way to calculate what the true figure every month will be or is this not possible as the extra wage is bonus/overtime related? 
    Probably more suited to the "Cutting Tax" board.

    Anyway, using your base salary £90k.
    The SS amount for the car is £1k per month so £12k per year.
    Your salary is reduced by that amount.
    You get the use of the car instead.
    On £12k you would be paying 40% income tax plus 2% NI, so deduction of £5k.
    Assume the car is an EV with list price £100k.
    BIK at 2% is income tax on £2k at 40% so £1k
    So you SS £12k but take home only reduces by £8k
    Hence, the £1k per month becomes £670 per month.

    Obviously, I made assumptions and rounded figures.  You would need to run for accurate figures.

    Hope that helps.
  • El_Torro
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    edited 1 August at 12:21PM
    If you can find a way to keep your earnings below £100k per year this will help as the tax you pay between £100k and £130k is quite punishing. One way to reduce your earnings is to lease a car through salary sacrifice, another way is to pay into your pension, ideally through salary sacrifice.

    i don’t think it’s easy to calculate exactly what you’ll pay, due to variable earnings. You should get at least 40% tax relief though, since your basic salary is about £90k. 

    Are you sure you are comparing like for like? £983 per month for a lease sounds very expensive, especially if it’s net. I wouldn’t expect even a Tesla to cost that much. 
  • richard2622
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    edited 1 August at 12:21PM
    It’s a BMW X5 50e that I’m looking at. The monthly gross is £1231 according to tuskers website. 
  • MyRealNameToo
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    edited 1 August at 12:21PM
    It’s a BMW X5 50e that I’m looking at. The monthly gross is £1231 according to tuskers website. 
    Do you know the lease cost? 

    The reality is, "it depends". How does your scheme work and what you may be losing in pension and bonus if these are calculated pre or post sacrifice 
  • sheramber
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    edited 1 August at 12:21PM
    You will lose X amount of salary to cover the lease payment.

    You will have a benefit in kind charge to tax depending on the type and value of the car

    The charge would  be 9% for 25/26, 10% for 26/27, 11% for 27/28.

    The BIK  is charged at  your taxable rate. 
  • MyRealNameToo
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    edited 1 August at 12:21PM
    sheramber said:

    The charge would  be 9% for 25/26, 10% for 26/27, 11% for 27/28.

    The BIK  is charged at  your taxable rate. 
    Percentage is applied to the official list price of the vehicle including any optional extras not the price it's actually gotten for. 
  • silvercar
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    @richard2622, moving this to the tax board.
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