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Teaandbiscuits21
Teaandbiscuits21 Posts: 49 Forumite
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edited 14 July at 5:31PM in Debt-free wannabe
Apologies not sure if I’ve stuck this in the right place so if I haven’t sorry.

So I’ve accumulated just under 10k of debt. And I don’t feel like I’m in control of my finances anymore, moneys coming out here and there and more debt letters seem to be coming or I owe more money somewhere that I’ve forgotten about.

I’ve had a tough year this year as I’ve been whacked with a CCJ (unfairly might I add but that’s a different story). And I’ve had a car repo as well (I take full responsibility). 

There’s a hell of a lot of info on here so I don’t know where to start on here. So I’ll ask some questions and I am very sorry if the answers are on here already. 

1. Do all debts need to have defaulted before I can set a dmp up? I have got a credit card with Zable which I pay the min every month for example. I’ve got a loan with finio loans which has a couple of payments missed now which I wouldn’t be surprised if they defaulted it sooner or later. 

2. Am I best going solo or going with stepchange etc

3. anyone got a template or where I can find to write to all creditors? Presumably that’s where I start?

im struggling to make ends meet and I’m behind with council tax (arrears , I am in an arrangement however) and I’m getting way behind and building up a debt with octopus energy. Ultimately I don’t want to be struggling every month and I want to be able to stick money away in an emergency fund. So surely this way I can pay the very little I can afford ?

also after the car repo I am hoping to save slowly for a cheap run a round but this is impossible at the moment.

thanks for any help 

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  • fatbelly
    fatbelly Posts: 22,902 Forumite
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    Council tax and elec/gas are priority debts so stick with sorting those for now.

    1. Yes
    2. Go do-it-yourself
    3. All the resources you need are on

    https://nedcab.cabmoney.org.uk/remedy_4.asp

    I'll ask for this to be moved to dfw
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,464 Ambassador
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    Moved for you.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 35,444 Forumite
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    Sorry life has been a bit carp recently.

    First thing is do you have a basic bank account with a banking group1 to whom you owe nothing? Get your income paid into there. You may need to check with HR etc when the deadline is for the next payment. Then move the essential DDs to that account, including CT and utilities, manually. The Switch service moves all the DDs for your creditors as well and it's a nightmare sorting it out.

    Then stop paying everyone except pay any extra towards the CT debt and the Octopus account. Do you have an order to pay towards the CCJ?  Everyone else can go whistle. Now start to revise your Statement of Affairs so you pay all priority debts and know what "spare" you have. Remember to account for things like Christmas presents, clothing, medical and dental monthly and stash that annual amount in a separate account so you have it to hand when it's needed.

    If you can clear the CT and utility debt before everyone defaults, put every brass farthing into an emergency fund. 

    A lot of creditor letters mention the word default but aren't a prelude to a default. You are waiting for the letter that demands that you repay the entire debt. That should be followed by the default, keep tabs on your credit records at that point.

    You don't have to wait for all the accounts to default before you pay the ones that have defaulted. The creditor will write telling you where to pay and your account reference. At that point write and tell them you have CT debts if that is the case, and can only make a token payment at present. £1 is quite adequate in the short term.

    However it can take 6-18 months for debts to default, so you may already have a decent emergency fund. And by then you should have a much better idea of how much you can afford to pay towards your debt. Pay the creditors by standing order, not direct debit.
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • Teaandbiscuits21
    Teaandbiscuits21 Posts: 49 Forumite
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    RAS said:
    Sorry life has been a bit carp recently.

    First thing is do you have a basic bank account with a banking group1 to whom you owe nothing? Get your income paid into there. You may need to check with HR etc when the deadline is for the next payment. Then move the essential DDs to that account, including CT and utilities, manually. The Switch service moves all the DDs for your creditors as well and it's a nightmare sorting it out.

    Then stop paying everyone except pay any extra towards the CT debt and the Octopus account. Do you have an order to pay towards the CCJ?  Everyone else can go whistle. Now start to revise your Statement of Affairs so you pay all priority debts and know what "spare" you have. Remember to account for things like Christmas presents, clothing, medical and dental monthly and stash that annual amount in a separate account so you have it to hand when it's needed.

    If you can clear the CT and utility debt before everyone defaults, put every brass farthing into an emergency fund. 

    A lot of creditor letters mention the word default but aren't a prelude to a default. You are waiting for the letter that demands that you repay the entire debt. That should be followed by the default, keep tabs on your credit records at that point.

    You don't have to wait for all the accounts to default before you pay the ones that have defaulted. The creditor will write telling you where to pay and your account reference. At that point write and tell them you have CT debts if that is the case, and can only make a token payment at present. £1 is quite adequate in the short term.

    However it can take 6-18 months for debts to default, so you may already have a decent emergency fund. And by then you should have a much better idea of how much you can afford to pay towards your debt. Pay the creditors by standing order, not direct debit.
    Thanks this was really helpful. I’ll get started asap. No the CCJ is satisfied so not paying anything there. 
  • kimwp
    kimwp Posts: 2,895 Forumite
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    Apologies not sure if I’ve stuck this in the right place so if I haven’t sorry.

    So I’ve accumulated just under 10k of debt. And I don’t feel like I’m in control of my finances anymore, moneys coming out here and there and more debt letters seem to be coming or I owe more money somewhere that I’ve forgotten about.

    I’ve had a tough year this year as I’ve been whacked with a CCJ (unfairly might I add but that’s a different story). And I’ve had a car repo as well (I take full responsibility). 

    There’s a hell of a lot of info on here so I don’t know where to start on here. So I’ll ask some questions and I am very sorry if the answers are on here already. 

    1. Do all debts need to have defaulted before I can set a dmp up? I have got a credit card with Zable which I pay the min every month for example. I’ve got a loan with finio loans which has a couple of payments missed now which I wouldn’t be surprised if they defaulted it sooner or later. 

    2. Am I best going solo or going with stepchange etc

    3. anyone got a template or where I can find to write to all creditors? Presumably that’s where I start?

    im struggling to make ends meet and I’m behind with council tax (arrears , I am in an arrangement however) and I’m getting way behind and building up a debt with octopus energy. Ultimately I don’t want to be struggling every month and I want to be able to stick money away in an emergency fund. So surely this way I can pay the very little I can afford ?

    also after the car repo I am hoping to save slowly for a cheap run a round but this is impossible at the moment.

    thanks for any help 
    1. No, but it's better for you if they default first  due to a shorter term impact on your credit record.

    2. It's entirely down to whether you prefer to have someone looking after it for you, but you have to stick with their approach (start the dmp straight away after engaging them) or do it yourself where you send the money to your creditors each month, but you have a bit more flexibility. Unless it causes you lots of anxiety, it's better to do it yourself, because the aim is to get into.a position where you are capably managing your finances.

    3. It sounds counterintuitive, but if you want your accounts to default, then you are best off going radio silent with your creditors.


    Statement of Affairs (SOA) link: https://www.lemonfool.co.uk/financecalculators/soa.php

    For free, non-judgemental debt advice, try: Stepchange or National Debtline. Beware fee charging companies with similar names.
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