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Two Contracts with Single Employer & Resignation

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JCF1985
JCF1985 Posts: 14 Forumite
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Hi all,
Question is on behalf of my brother.
He is employed by the government, and works for the same department but with 4 days per week at one level, and 1 day at a lower level. There are two payslips, two contracts, and the same tax code on both payslips.
The question is, would it be possible to resign from the single lower paid day, without it affecting the other 4? Nothing is required to change those 4 days, they can remain as is, but the 1 day at a lower level will be binned off. Bosses won't be happy but can they actually do anything about it? Presumably they can't fight a resignation, but he'll be going to the same place under the same management for the other 4 days. Surely if its a separate contract then they're totally independent of each other, right?
Thanks!
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  • Emmia
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    JCF1985 said:
    Hi all,
    Question is on behalf of my brother.
    He is employed by the government, and works for the same department but with 4 days per week at one level, and 1 day at a lower level. There are two payslips, two contracts, and the same tax code on both payslips.
    The question is, would it be possible to resign from the single lower paid day, without it affecting the other 4? Nothing is required to change those 4 days, they can remain as is, but the 1 day at a lower level will be binned off. Bosses won't be happy but can they actually do anything about it? Presumably they can't fight a resignation, but they'll be going to the same place under the same management for the other 4 days. Surely if its a separate contract then they're totally independent of each other, right?
    Thanks!
    I'm not sure how he's managed this, as this type of working arrangement is generally frowned upon in the CS, depending on the grades involved there can be complexity in the pension arrangements too.

    I think if he wants to leave the 1 day a week job then he should talk to his line managers and HR about how to do this. Would he be seeking to do the other job full time?
  • JCF1985
    JCF1985 Posts: 14 Forumite
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    edited 2 July at 9:54AM
    Hi, Thanks for replying so quick!
    He started off at the lower level and received a part time promotion (another staff members part time hours/role became available when they left), initially for 3 days, then was awarded the additional day at a later date. This arrangement has been in place for at least a year.
    He would look to just work the 4 days. 
  • Marcon
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    edited 2 July at 10:38AM
    A chat with his manager to let them know he will be resigning from the one day a week job because he wants to work just 4 days a week, immediately followed by written confirmation, is surely all that's needed? Whether the bosses are happy or not is irrelevant, but someone handling their resignation diplomatically never did anyone's career any harm.
    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
  • sheramber
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    Is that permanent promotion?
  • JCF1985
    JCF1985 Posts: 14 Forumite
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    Marcon said:
    A chat with his manager to let them know he will be resigning from the one day a week job because he wants to work just 4 days a week, immediately followed by written confirmation, is surely all that's needed? Whether the bosses are happy or not is irrelevant, but someone handling their resignation diplomatically never did anyone's career any harm.
    That's what we thought, thank you!

    sheramber said:
    Is that permanent promotion?
    It is, yes.
  • saajan_12
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    Marcon said:
    A chat with his manager to let them know he will be resigning from the one day a week job because he wants to work just 4 days a week, immediately followed by written confirmation, is surely all that's needed? Whether the bosses are happy or not is irrelevant, but someone handling their resignation diplomatically never did anyone's career any harm.
    That's in the usual context where post resignation the ex employee fully leaves the team. They aren't there day in day out for the manager to express their frustrations if it turns out difficult to replace. 

    This is different and I'd just start with the conversation rather than focusing on their rights. Ultimately if they are fine with it then no harm, and if they are not then at least he knows and can plan for the upcoming tense working environment. 
  • JCF1985
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    That makes sense. He was wanting to find out where he stood before he upset the apple cart with his boss so to speak, but like you said, diplomatic discussions are required.
    Thanks all!
  • Marcon
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    saajan_12 said:
    Marcon said:
    A chat with his manager to let them know he will be resigning from the one day a week job because he wants to work just 4 days a week, immediately followed by written confirmation, is surely all that's needed? Whether the bosses are happy or not is irrelevant, but someone handling their resignation diplomatically never did anyone's career any harm.
    That's in the usual context where post resignation the ex employee fully leaves the team. They aren't there day in day out for the manager to express their frustrations if it turns out difficult to replace. 


    Surely diplomacy is even more important when they aren't going to be leaving...?
    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
  • JCF1985
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    Oh of course. It was always going to be handled in a civil matter, he just wanted to be armed with the info before he had the conversation. 
  • Savvy_Sue
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    I think the advice HR gave to me many years ago may be relevant.

    I was working in one University dept, and was offered a job in another. Both depts wanted me to be in post for the very busy period about to start. Old dept wouldn't be able to recruit within my notice period.

    Initially the two Heads of Dept were trying to reach an agreement, but it wasn't happening. I bumped into the Head of HR and said it was tricky, because new dept was not happy I didn't have a start date, and old dept wasn't budging.

    "You know you could just give 4 weeks notice yourself?" said HR.

    So I did: letter to my current HoD, cc HR, dear John, it's not you it's me, been very happy but here's my notice, off to new job on X date.

    As expected, old job wasn't happy, but I continued to be my sweet and charming self, both then and in future dealings.

    So if 1-day-PW manager isn't happy when you talk to them, just do it anyway.

    And of course, this being the Civil Service, they may be glad to be able to shave the staff budget ...


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