Wine in big bottles

singhini

MattMattMattUK said:

[Deleted User] said:

But she only does it occasionally maybe once a month and gets very offended at the mere mention of binging on wine! 

To be fair drinking one bottle once a month is hardly binging.

It might only be once a month, but it is still binging (and even though just once a month is still having a negative effect on the wider family).  

Emmia

MattMattMattUK said:

[Deleted User] said:

But she only does it occasionally maybe once a month and gets very offended at the mere mention of binging on wine! 

To be fair drinking one bottle once a month is hardly binging.

One bottle in one go occasionally is the definition of a binge.

p00hsticks

[Deleted User] said:

If I drunk beer I wouldn't buy a 5 pint bottle, I'd buy 250/330ml bottles and have one at a time.

Most supermarkets / off licences I'm aware of only sell beer in a minimum of four bottle / can packs - often six packs or even 12/15 bottle cases, so I'm not sure your comparison really makes sense.

As others have said, it's perfectly possible to get individual small cans or bottles of wine, although they tend to work out considerably more expensive than a 75cl bottle if you don't have the will power to restrict your consumption.

QrizB

Emmia said:

MattMattMattUK said:

[Deleted User] said:

But she only does it occasionally maybe once a month and gets very offended at the mere mention of binging on wine! 

To be fair drinking one bottle once a month is hardly binging.

One bottle in one go occasionally is the definition of a binge.

More than eight units for a man, more than six units for a woman, per:

https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/facts/health-effects-of-alcohol/lifestyle-effects/binge-drinking

A bottle of wine is typically between 7 and 10 units depending on ABV, so it's definitely a binge for a woman (like OPs mother) but might not be one for a man.

singhini

QrizB said:

Emmia said:

MattMattMattUK said:

[Deleted User] said:

But she only does it occasionally maybe once a month and gets very offended at the mere mention of binging on wine! 

To be fair drinking one bottle once a month is hardly binging.

One bottle in one go occasionally is the definition of a binge.

More than eight units for a man, more than six units for a woman, per:

https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/facts/health-effects-of-alcohol/lifestyle-effects/binge-drinking

A bottle of wine is typically between 7 and 10 units depending on ABV, so it's definitely a binge for a woman (like OPs mother) but might not be one for a man.

Between 7 and 10 is 8.5
Also the short term harms increase as a result of drinking between 5 and 7 units

This is a cut and paste directly from the link you provided:

More than 8 units of alcohol in a single session for males, or more than 6 units in a single session for females is the technical definition. That’s equivalent to about four pints of normal strength beer for a man or three pints for a woman.

We know that the risks of short-term harms like accidents or injuries increase between two to five times as a result of drinking between 5 and 7 units of alcohol in a single drinking session, compared with not drinking any alcohol at all.

Dept of Health / Gov website suggests a typical bottle of 11% ABV wine at 750ml is 8.2 units
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/delivering-better-oral-health-an-evidence-based-toolkit-for-prevention/chapter-12-alcohol 

This was interesting from WHO
https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health

Emmia

p00hsticks said:

[Deleted User] said:

If I drunk beer I wouldn't buy a 5 pint bottle, I'd buy 250/330ml bottles and have one at a time.

Most supermarkets / off licences I'm aware of only sell beer in a minimum of four bottle / can packs - often six packs or even 12/15 bottle cases, so I'm not sure your comparison really makes sense.

As others have said, it's perfectly possible to get individual small cans or bottles of wine, although they tend to work out considerably more expensive than a 75cl bottle if you don't have the will power to restrict your consumption.

Single bottles / cans of beer are readily available in supermarkets, it's not just 4/6/12 packs they sell.

Edit: Ocado currently has 59 different beers in single bottles.

HampshireH

[Deleted User] said:

Hello my mother buys big wine bottles and occasionally opens one and one glass becomes a whole bottle and waking up the house at 2 am having finished the whole bottle. Then regretting it next day.
If I drunk beer I wouldn't buy a 5 pint bottle, I'd buy 250/330ml bottles and have one at a time.
Why can't wine be the same so people have more chance of controlling intake, not finishing a whole bottle to themselves and waking the house up on their way to bed ?

They do she chooses not to buy them.

Your mother is a grown adult who can do as she pleases
 So what if you get woken up 1 night a month? Or she feels rubbish the next day - she knows she will but chooses to do so.

Pop some ear plugs in on her binge night.

I could understand the complaint far more if it was daily or even weekly but 12 times a year doesn't seem unreasonable

PLRFD

Emmia said:

p00hsticks said:

[Deleted User] said:

If I drunk beer I wouldn't buy a 5 pint bottle, I'd buy 250/330ml bottles and have one at a time.

Most supermarkets / off licences I'm aware of only sell beer in a minimum of four bottle / can packs - often six packs or even 12/15 bottle cases, so I'm not sure your comparison really makes sense.

As others have said, it's perfectly possible to get individual small cans or bottles of wine, although they tend to work out considerably more expensive than a 75cl bottle if you don't have the will power to restrict your consumption.

Single bottles / cans of beer are readily available in supermarkets, it's not just 4/6/12 packs they sell.

Agreed and Home Bargains is full of single bottles and cans.

singhini

HampshireH said:

[Deleted User] said:

Hello my mother buys big wine bottles and occasionally opens one and one glass becomes a whole bottle and waking up the house at 2 am having finished the whole bottle. Then regretting it next day.
If I drunk beer I wouldn't buy a 5 pint bottle, I'd buy 250/330ml bottles and have one at a time.
Why can't wine be the same so people have more chance of controlling intake, not finishing a whole bottle to themselves and waking the house up on their way to bed ?

They do she chooses not to buy them.

Your mother is a grown adult who can do as she pleases
 So what if you get woken up 1 night a month? Or she feels rubbish the next day - she knows she will but chooses to do so.

Pop some ear plugs in on her binge night.

I could understand the complaint far more if it was daily or even weekly but 12 times a year doesn't seem unreasonable

do as she pleases - including negatively impacting on others
12 times a year - Why does the mother need to do it at all?

DullGreyGuy

[Deleted User] said:

Hello my mother buys big wine bottles and occasionally opens one and one glass becomes a whole bottle and waking up the house at 2 am having finished the whole bottle. Then regretting it next day.
If I drunk beer I wouldn't buy a 5 pint bottle, I'd buy 250/330ml bottles and have one at a time.
Why can't wine be the same so people have more chance of controlling intake, not finishing a whole bottle to themselves and waking the house up on their way to bed ?

Big bottles are rare, you occasionally see a magnum (2x standard bottle) in supermarkets but really have to go hunting for a Jeroboam (4x standard bottle) or Nebuchadnezzar (20x standard bottle). 

You can also buy smaller than a standard bottle plus cans are increasingly available. 

If you are the sort of person thats going to finish a bottle (equivalent to 3 pints) then you are not likely to be the type of person that buys one 250ml bottle of beer for the night. You are more likely to buy a 4 pack (or more) and equally consume the lot before bedtime. 

It's not simply the bottle size thats the issue else someone would drink a whole bottle of whiskey or gin in a night which despite being a similar size to a bottle of wine is much rarer.