Advice needed for when I buy train tickets

Idontlikeworking

We're going to blackpool on the 16th of august and returning on the 23rd so I need to book train tickets from Cwmbran to Blackpool for 3 adults and 1 child with a family & friends railcard so can someone tell me what's the best way to book this.

If I buy two singles from transport for wales it's going to cost £246.70 so it would be better to buy an off peak return for £251.50 so I can travel on a different time train to the connecting one. 

If I change my travel plans and book a return ticket from Cwmbran to Manchester Piccadilly it will cost £111.70 so then I would have to buy a off peak open return from Northern trains for £54.35 but will this be a problem doing it this way.

JGB1955

If you have a look at Cwmbran > Blackpool South - Search Results | TrainSplit  you can pay less than £150 return.

Idontlikeworking

JGB1955 said:

If you have a look at Cwmbran > Blackpool South - Search Results | TrainSplit  you can pay less than £150 return.

If I buy split tickets and the train I'm travelling on is late and I miss the connecting train will I be allowed to travel on the next train.

daveyjp

Idontlikeworking said:

JGB1955 said:

If you have a look at Cwmbran > Blackpool South - Search Results | TrainSplit  you can pay less than £150 return.

If I buy split tickets and the train I'm travelling on is late and I miss the connecting train will I be allowed to travel on the next train.

In short yes.  Splitting tickets makes no difference to your passenger rights.  You could have a through ticket and suffer delay, you get the next service and of course if necessary claim delay repay.

Nonesuch_xx

Generally yes, per conditions of carriage a missed connection should not invalidate later tickets. Best practice is to get guard or ticket office to endorse the late ticket to show next guard.

That said, be prepared for an argument if the following ticket is limited to specific train or operator and was not on the same booking (I.e. you hand built the split using a TOC website instead of a splitter site; or it was the only way to be able to buy the split due to booking site issues). Endorsing should help.

I generally try to ensure following tickets are flexible (e.g. off peaks rather than fixed train); best to have only one fixed train in each direction of your itinerary.

Idontlikeworking

daveyjp said:

Idontlikeworking said:

JGB1955 said:

If you have a look at Cwmbran > Blackpool South - Search Results | TrainSplit  you can pay less than £150 return.

If I buy split tickets and the train I'm travelling on is late and I miss the connecting train will I be allowed to travel on the next train.

In short yes.  Splitting tickets makes no difference to your passenger rights.  You could have a through ticket and suffer delay, you get the next service and of course if necessary claim delay repay.

I was wondering about delayed or cancelled trains because the last time we went to blackpool we had train tickets for anytime of the day but if we didn't have them I was wondering what would happen because transport for wales train was late so we nearly missed the connecting train then on the way home northern trains cancelled the one we should of caught.

msa1204

Detailed guidance on split tickets on the Railuk Webb site.
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/railuk-fares-ticketing-guide-section-1-ticket-types-conditions.70018/#post-1179633