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  • freddie2
    freddie2 Posts: 90 Forumite
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    Partner bought property on 10/05/2010 in his sole name for £207k
    I owned a property in my sole name which I sold on 28/03/2013. Although I spent most of my time at my partners I did not change my place of residence on any official documents.
    on 23/05/2013 we purchased a property in joint names and moved into together
    Partners property transferred into joint names on 08/10/2013. This property rented  out , now sold for £290k, completing on 1/05/2025
  • Bookworm225
    Bookworm225 Posts: 393 Forumite
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    edited 1 May at 1:33PM
    freddie2 said:
    Partner bought property on 10/05/2010 in his sole name for £207k
    I owned a property in my sole name which I sold on 28/03/2013. Although I spent most of my time at my partners I did not change my place of residence on any official documents.
    on 23/05/2013 we purchased a property in joint names and moved into together
    Partners property transferred into joint names on 08/10/2013. This property rented  out , now sold for £290k, completing on 1/05/2025
    Property A purchased 10/05/2010 cost 207k (initially owned by partner as main home)
    changed to joint ownership 
    08/10/2013 (assume 50/50?). Crucially at that date they were not married. 

    Property B main home property owned by Freddie sold 
    28/03/2013 

    Property C new main home for both partners joint purchase 
    23/05/2013 (marriage some 4 years + later)

    Property A ceases as his main home wef May 2013 and sold 
    1/05/2025 for 290k
    From Mar 13 to May 13 assume Freddie living in property A, but not married nor an owner of it at that time, so not eligible for main/only home relief on A before moving out of it

    CGT for Partner on sale of (let) property A (PRR is available)
    owned for May 2010 to  May 2025 = 181 months 
    Gross gain (290 - 207) x 50% share = 41,500
    less PRR May 2010 to May 2013 = 37 months + final 9 = 46/181 = 25.4%
    41,500 - 10,547 - 3,000 CGT allowance = 27,953 net taxable gain 

    CGT for Freddie on sale of (let) property A (PRR not available)
    owned Oct 13 to May 2025 = 140 months
    Gross gain is impossible to calculate as needs value of property at point of acquisition on 08/10/2013 as unmarried at that date so acquiring share of ownership is not backdated on the no gain no loss basis.
    whatever that acquisition cost is, it will result in a gross gain from which only Freddie's 3k CGT allowance can be deducted to give their net taxable gain 
  • sheramber
    sheramber Posts: 22,644 Forumite
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    freddie2 said:
    Partner bought property on 10/05/2010 in his sole name for £207k
    I owned a property in my sole name which I sold on 28/03/2013. Although I spent most of my time at my partners I did not change my place of residence on any official documents.
    on 23/05/2013 we purchased a property in joint names and moved into together
    Partners property transferred into joint names on 08/10/2013. This property rented  out , now sold for £290k, completing on 1/05/2025
    Property A purchased 10/05/2010 cost 207k (initially owned by partner as main home)
    changed to joint ownership 08/10/2013 (assume 50/50?). Crucially at that date they were not married. 

    Property B main home property owned by Freddie sold 28/03/2013 

    Property C new main home for both partners joint purchase 23/05/2013 (marriage some 4 years + later)

    Property A ceases as his main home wef May 2013 and sold 1/05/2025 for 290k
    From Mar 13 to May 13 assume Freddie living in property A, but not married nor an owner of it at that time, so not eligible for main/only home relief on A before moving out of it

    CGT for Partner on sale of (let) property A (PRR is available)
    owned for May 2010 to  May 2025 = 181 months 
    Gross gain (290 - 207) x 50% share = 41,500
    less PRR May 2010 to May 2013 = 37 months + final 9 = 46/181 = 25.4%
    41,500 - 10,547 - 3,000 CGT allowance = 27,953 net taxable gain 

    CGT for Freddie on sale of (let) property A (PRR not available)
    owned Oct 13 to May 2025 = 140 months
    Gross gain is impossible to calculate as needs value of property at point of acquisition on 08/10/2013 as unmarried at that date so acquiring share of ownership is not backdated on the no gain no loss basis.
    whatever that acquisition cost is, it will result in a gross gain from which only Freddie's 3k CGT allowance can be deducted to give their net taxable gain 
    buying/selling costs?
  • freddie2
    freddie2 Posts: 90 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts PPI Party Pooper
    That is really helpful , thank you.
    So, just have to find the value of property on 8/10/13 and my CTG will be based on half that amount with no deductions apart from my 3k and half of any selling costs
  • Bookworm225
    Bookworm225 Posts: 393 Forumite
    100 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 1 May at 4:47PM
    sheramber said:
    freddie2 said:
    Partner bought property on 10/05/2010 in his sole name for £207k
    I owned a property in my sole name which I sold on 28/03/2013. Although I spent most of my time at my partners I did not change my place of residence on any official documents.
    on 23/05/2013 we purchased a property in joint names and moved into together
    Partners property transferred into joint names on 08/10/2013. This property rented  out , now sold for £290k, completing on 1/05/2025
    Property A purchased 10/05/2010 cost 207k (initially owned by partner as main home)
    changed to joint ownership 08/10/2013 (assume 50/50?). Crucially at that date they were not married. 

    Property B main home property owned by Freddie sold 28/03/2013 

    Property C new main home for both partners joint purchase 23/05/2013 (marriage some 4 years + later)

    Property A ceases as his main home wef May 2013 and sold 1/05/2025 for 290k
    From Mar 13 to May 13 assume Freddie living in property A, but not married nor an owner of it at that time, so not eligible for main/only home relief on A before moving out of it

    CGT for Partner on sale of (let) property A (PRR is available)
    owned for May 2010 to  May 2025 = 181 months 
    Gross gain (290 - 207) x 50% share = 41,500
    less PRR May 2010 to May 2013 = 37 months + final 9 = 46/181 = 25.4%
    41,500 - 10,547 - 3,000 CGT allowance = 27,953 net taxable gain 

    CGT for Freddie on sale of (let) property A (PRR not available)
    owned Oct 13 to May 2025 = 140 months
    Gross gain is impossible to calculate as needs value of property at point of acquisition on 08/10/2013 as unmarried at that date so acquiring share of ownership is not backdated on the no gain no loss basis.
    whatever that acquisition cost is, it will result in a gross gain from which only Freddie's 3k CGT allowance can be deducted to give their net taxable gain 
    buying/selling costs?
    lets get the valuation sorted before getting into the minutiae
    as per OP reply above they are aware of that anyway 
  • sheramber
    sheramber Posts: 22,644 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts I've been Money Tipped! Name Dropper
    sheramber said:
    freddie2 said:
    Partner bought property on 10/05/2010 in his sole name for £207k
    I owned a property in my sole name which I sold on 28/03/2013. Although I spent most of my time at my partners I did not change my place of residence on any official documents.
    on 23/05/2013 we purchased a property in joint names and moved into together
    Partners property transferred into joint names on 08/10/2013. This property rented  out , now sold for £290k, completing on 1/05/2025
    Property A purchased 10/05/2010 cost 207k (initially owned by partner as main home)
    changed to joint ownership 08/10/2013 (assume 50/50?). Crucially at that date they were not married. 

    Property B main home property owned by Freddie sold 28/03/2013 

    Property C new main home for both partners joint purchase 23/05/2013 (marriage some 4 years + later)

    Property A ceases as his main home wef May 2013 and sold 1/05/2025 for 290k
    From Mar 13 to May 13 assume Freddie living in property A, but not married nor an owner of it at that time, so not eligible for main/only home relief on A before moving out of it

    CGT for Partner on sale of (let) property A (PRR is available)
    owned for May 2010 to  May 2025 = 181 months 
    Gross gain (290 - 207) x 50% share = 41,500
    less PRR May 2010 to May 2013 = 37 months + final 9 = 46/181 = 25.4%
    41,500 - 10,547 - 3,000 CGT allowance = 27,953 net taxable gain 

    CGT for Freddie on sale of (let) property A (PRR not available)
    owned Oct 13 to May 2025 = 140 months
    Gross gain is impossible to calculate as needs value of property at point of acquisition on 08/10/2013 as unmarried at that date so acquiring share of ownership is not backdated on the no gain no loss basis.
    whatever that acquisition cost is, it will result in a gross gain from which only Freddie's 3k CGT allowance can be deducted to give their net taxable gain 
    buying/selling costs?
    lets get the valuation sorted before getting into the minutiae
    as per OP reply above they are aware of that anyway 
    But someone else looking for help coming across the post might not know
  • Bookworm225
    Bookworm225 Posts: 393 Forumite
    100 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 1 May at 8:33PM
    sheramber said:
    sheramber said:
    freddie2 said:
    Partner bought property on 10/05/2010 in his sole name for £207k
    I owned a property in my sole name which I sold on 28/03/2013. Although I spent most of my time at my partners I did not change my place of residence on any official documents.
    on 23/05/2013 we purchased a property in joint names and moved into together
    Partners property transferred into joint names on 08/10/2013. This property rented  out , now sold for £290k, completing on 1/05/2025
    Property A purchased 10/05/2010 cost 207k (initially owned by partner as main home)
    changed to joint ownership 08/10/2013 (assume 50/50?). Crucially at that date they were not married. 

    Property B main home property owned by Freddie sold 28/03/2013 

    Property C new main home for both partners joint purchase 23/05/2013 (marriage some 4 years + later)

    Property A ceases as his main home wef May 2013 and sold 1/05/2025 for 290k
    From Mar 13 to May 13 assume Freddie living in property A, but not married nor an owner of it at that time, so not eligible for main/only home relief on A before moving out of it

    CGT for Partner on sale of (let) property A (PRR is available)
    owned for May 2010 to  May 2025 = 181 months 
    Gross gain (290 - 207) x 50% share = 41,500
    less PRR May 2010 to May 2013 = 37 months + final 9 = 46/181 = 25.4%
    41,500 - 10,547 - 3,000 CGT allowance = 27,953 net taxable gain 

    CGT for Freddie on sale of (let) property A (PRR not available)
    owned Oct 13 to May 2025 = 140 months
    Gross gain is impossible to calculate as needs value of property at point of acquisition on 08/10/2013 as unmarried at that date so acquiring share of ownership is not backdated on the no gain no loss basis.
    whatever that acquisition cost is, it will result in a gross gain from which only Freddie's 3k CGT allowance can be deducted to give their net taxable gain 
    buying/selling costs?
    lets get the valuation sorted before getting into the minutiae
    as per OP reply above they are aware of that anyway 
    But someone else looking for help coming across the post might not know
    then please feel free to write out the entire CGT manual for every answer given on here because if someone cannot come here with a grasp of the basics that they have looked up themselves then that is what you must do every time.

    I note no one else has actually attempted to answer OP's question in this thread but seem keen to micro criticise those who have
  • sheramber
    sheramber Posts: 22,644 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts I've been Money Tipped! Name Dropper
    sheramber said:
    sheramber said:
    freddie2 said:
    Partner bought property on 10/05/2010 in his sole name for £207k
    I owned a property in my sole name which I sold on 28/03/2013. Although I spent most of my time at my partners I did not change my place of residence on any official documents.
    on 23/05/2013 we purchased a property in joint names and moved into together
    Partners property transferred into joint names on 08/10/2013. This property rented  out , now sold for £290k, completing on 1/05/2025
    Property A purchased 10/05/2010 cost 207k (initially owned by partner as main home)
    changed to joint ownership 08/10/2013 (assume 50/50?). Crucially at that date they were not married. 

    Property B main home property owned by Freddie sold 28/03/2013 

    Property C new main home for both partners joint purchase 23/05/2013 (marriage some 4 years + later)

    Property A ceases as his main home wef May 2013 and sold 1/05/2025 for 290k
    From Mar 13 to May 13 assume Freddie living in property A, but not married nor an owner of it at that time, so not eligible for main/only home relief on A before moving out of it

    CGT for Partner on sale of (let) property A (PRR is available)
    owned for May 2010 to  May 2025 = 181 months 
    Gross gain (290 - 207) x 50% share = 41,500
    less PRR May 2010 to May 2013 = 37 months + final 9 = 46/181 = 25.4%
    41,500 - 10,547 - 3,000 CGT allowance = 27,953 net taxable gain 

    CGT for Freddie on sale of (let) property A (PRR not available)
    owned Oct 13 to May 2025 = 140 months
    Gross gain is impossible to calculate as needs value of property at point of acquisition on 08/10/2013 as unmarried at that date so acquiring share of ownership is not backdated on the no gain no loss basis.
    whatever that acquisition cost is, it will result in a gross gain from which only Freddie's 3k CGT allowance can be deducted to give their net taxable gain 
    buying/selling costs?
    lets get the valuation sorted before getting into the minutiae
    as per OP reply above they are aware of that anyway 
    But someone else looking for help coming across the post might not know
    then please feel free to write out the entire CGT manual for every answer given on here because if someone cannot come here with a grasp of the basics that they have looked up themselves then that is what you must do every time.

    I note no one else has actually attempted to answer OP's question in this thread but seem keen to micro criticise those who have
    as you did here

    pedantically the first option should be 
    Window cleaning + crypto less (actual) expenses for window cleaning less (actual) expenses for crypto trading (given he is staking and therefore trading)

    Your comments would apply here
  • sheramber
    sheramber Posts: 22,644 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts I've been Money Tipped! Name Dropper
    sheramber said:
    sheramber said:
    freddie2 said:
    Partner bought property on 10/05/2010 in his sole name for £207k
    I owned a property in my sole name which I sold on 28/03/2013. Although I spent most of my time at my partners I did not change my place of residence on any official documents.
    on 23/05/2013 we purchased a property in joint names and moved into together
    Partners property transferred into joint names on 08/10/2013. This property rented  out , now sold for £290k, completing on 1/05/2025
    Property A purchased 10/05/2010 cost 207k (initially owned by partner as main home)
    changed to joint ownership 08/10/2013 (assume 50/50?). Crucially at that date they were not married. 

    Property B main home property owned by Freddie sold 28/03/2013 

    Property C new main home for both partners joint purchase 23/05/2013 (marriage some 4 years + later)

    Property A ceases as his main home wef May 2013 and sold 1/05/2025 for 290k
    From Mar 13 to May 13 assume Freddie living in property A, but not married nor an owner of it at that time, so not eligible for main/only home relief on A before moving out of it

    CGT for Partner on sale of (let) property A (PRR is available)
    owned for May 2010 to  May 2025 = 181 months 
    Gross gain (290 - 207) x 50% share = 41,500
    less PRR May 2010 to May 2013 = 37 months + final 9 = 46/181 = 25.4%
    41,500 - 10,547 - 3,000 CGT allowance = 27,953 net taxable gain 

    CGT for Freddie on sale of (let) property A (PRR not available)
    owned Oct 13 to May 2025 = 140 months
    Gross gain is impossible to calculate as needs value of property at point of acquisition on 08/10/2013 as unmarried at that date so acquiring share of ownership is not backdated on the no gain no loss basis.
    whatever that acquisition cost is, it will result in a gross gain from which only Freddie's 3k CGT allowance can be deducted to give their net taxable gain 
    buying/selling costs?
    lets get the valuation sorted before getting into the minutiae
    as per OP reply above they are aware of that anyway 
    But someone else looking for help coming across the post might not know
    then please feel free to write out the entire CGT manual for every answer given on here because if someone cannot come here with a grasp of the basics that they have looked up themselves then that is what you must do every time.

    I note no one else has actually attempted to answer OP's question in this thread but seem keen to micro criticise those who have
    I assume you jumped to the conclusion that I had reported to you. 

    Sorry to burst your bubble but I did not report anything or anybody. 
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