Holiday pay calculation

sheramber

All very interesting but if you read first post

“The firm's holiday entitlement period begins on 1st Jan”

General_Grant

sheramber said:

All very interesting but if you read first post

“The firm's holiday entitlement period begins on 1st Jan”

I did read the first post which is why, in my first response, I wrote, 
"Given you know the employer's holiday year is the a calendar year, that suggests your wife does have some written particulars of employment as holiday entitlement is one of the areas to be covered.  However, if there really is no written information, why are you looking at the year ending 31 March rather than 31 December 2024 or 30 April 2025?  In the absence of a notified holiday year, the year for your wife would run from 1 May to 30 April."

It seemed odd to me that someone would be asking about an entitlement for a year ending 31 March when they knew that the business's holiday year ended December (and the individual year would end April).  If they had been thinking about the tax year, we know that that ends on 5 April not 31 March.

sheramber

General_Grant said:

sheramber said:

All very interesting but if you read first post

“The firm's holiday entitlement period begins on 1st Jan”

I did read the first post which is why, in my first response, I wrote, 
"Given you know the employer's holiday year is the a calendar year, that suggests your wife does have some written particulars of employment as holiday entitlement is one of the areas to be covered.  However, if there really is no written information, why are you looking at the year ending 31 March rather than 31 December 2024 or 30 April 2025?  In the absence of a notified holiday year, the year for your wife would run from 1 May to 30 April."

It seemed odd to me that someone would be asking about an entitlement for a year ending 31 March when they knew that the business's holiday year ended December (and the individual year would end April).  If they had been thinking about the tax year, we know that that ends on 5 April not 31 March.

I was referring to the three poster before your post. 

What their holiday year is is of no relevance to the OP’s wife. 

downhillian

thanks for your comments. Her employer is not disputing that she is due holiday pay I just wanted to know what the statutory amount should be for the year up to end of March. Sounds like she is due 28.24 hours then?

Savvy_Sue

downhillian said:

thanks for your comments. Her employer is not disputing that she is due holiday pay I just wanted to know what the statutory amount should be for the year up to end of March. Sounds like she is due 28.24 hours then?

I'm not sure if you've answered the question: what entitlement does a f/t person receive? We can only answer the question if we know that ...

EnPointe

General_Grant said:

Brie said:

General_Grant said:

Given you know the employer's holiday year is the a calendar year, that suggests your wife does have some written particulars of employment as holiday entitlement is one of the areas to be covered.  However, if there really is no written information, why are you looking at the year ending 31 March rather than 31 December 2024 or 30 April 2025?  In the absence of a notified holiday year, the year for your wife would run from 1 May to 30 April.

Why 1 May to 30 April?  I've never seen any employer use that period.  It's always been the calendar year or 1 April to 31 March.  

From the regulations, if not notified otherwise the holiday year runs from the first day of employment.  So, having begun work on 1 May the OP's wife's leave year would run May to April.

er, nope 

 entirely normal to  either   work on 'accrual;s' during the first  year  of employment then  prorate   to align or  just go straight to pro rata 

 very rare to have different  leave year datres for individuals

General_Grant

actually, there's another default date - start on 1 October, which is the date the regulations originally came into force.

certainly you are correct that, in the first year, an employer could restrict taking holiday to that which has been accrued at the start of the holiday

it is indeed not common to have individual holiday years although some think it can be useful to avoid everyone wanting to take the final days of their entitlement at the same time

But, for the OP's wife, I was really questioning whether she really didn't have any written document.  It seemed that, if they knew the company holiday year, they would have been provided with this information as part of their written contractual documentation.

I still don't know why they wanted to work out the entitlement up to 31 March when that is not the end of the company year.