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Mortgage/repossession/declaration of trust

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  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,555 Ambassador
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    You have nothing to lose by sending the keys back to the lender ie a voluntary repossession. They will then deal with your ex. As there is sufficient equity in the property, you won’t lose out by doing so as any costs incurred in repossession will come out of the equity. It will affect your credit rating, but as you live elsewhere you won’t be looking for a new mortgage. It also means you can have a break from your ex.
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  • luvchocolate
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    Hoenir said:
    Hoenir said:
    Lender will ultimately proceed with reposssesion of the property. Whether it's now or in a few years time. 

    The proceeds are technically his in accordance with the DOT. Though as the property is legally yours. There may well be Capital Gains Tax to pay on the gain for the period the property wasn't your home. 




    It's a buy to let mortgages and it's never been my home..if my choice would prefer repossession sooner rather than later but it's out of my control 
    Thanks for replying 
    You could voluntarily hand the property back to the lender. 
    Unfortunately because ex lived there since 2012  that's not an option 
  • caprikid1
    caprikid1 Posts: 2,440 Forumite
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    Do you know if you EX is still alive ? Still at the property ?

    Can someone go an visit the property ?

    Ultimately this feels more like his problem than yours, you won't lose your home but potentially you will get a chunk of cash ?
  • luvchocolate
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    silvercar said:
    You have nothing to lose by sending the keys back to the lender ie a voluntary repossession. They will then deal with your ex. As there is sufficient equity in the property, you won’t lose out by doing so as any costs incurred in repossession will come out of the equity. It will affect your credit rating, but as you live elsewhere you won’t be looking for a new mortgage. It also means you can have a break from your ex.
    I have no keys as he demanded they returned to my trustees in bankruptcy..the lender are not interested in a repossession at the moment as payments have been up to date until November last year 

    He's making a payment then missing one, as we speak there are 2 missing payments 
    He knows the system,  this is the last of 3 properties  he will hang on.i think we're in this for the long haul
    Any shortfall would become coved by my bankruptcy in 2012 ...loan taken out 2006.
    The DOT has also made things worse otherwise my trustee could have included it in BR

    I do appreciate your reply 
  • silvercar
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    edited 19 March at 10:57AM
    I think handing the keys back is just an expression. You could write to the lender and say you are walking away from the situation. Your ex must have some status, a tenant or an excluded occupier with the addition of a deed of trust? Let the lender deal with it. You have nothing to gain.

    With 70k current equity, there is unlikely to be a shortfall. I can’t see the lender allowing you to walk away without acknowledging that it is your mortgage, so I doubt it can fall into a 2006 bankruptcy.
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  • luvchocolate
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    edited 19 March at 11:38AM
    Isilvercar said:
    I think handing the keys back is just an expression. You could write to the lender and say you are walking away from the situation. Your ex must have some status, a tenant or an excluded occupier with the addition of a deed of trust? Let the lender deal with it. You have nothing to gain.

    With 70k current equity, there is unlikely to be a shortfall. I can’t see the lender allowing you to walk away without acknowledging that it is your mortgage, so I doubt it can fall into a 2006 bankruptcy.
    Looked good until the last paragraph 
    An example of a previous propert purchased for £325k... upon eviction he had removed every saleable fixture..baths..sinks..sold after repossession for £190k...I cannot risk being liable for any shortfall if it doesn't go into the bankruptcy. 
    I have nothing left. 
    Thank for your knowledge it's very much appreciated. 
    Looks like I'll have to see it through 

    The property we are discussing was bought in 2006
    The bankruptcy was 2011 following 2 properties being repossessed with masive shortfall 
  • ian1246
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    edited 19 March at 11:42AM
    If the deed of trust specifies he makes payments towards the mortgage & he hasn't done so, what does that mean for the existing "status" of the Trust? Think I'd be tempted to seek legal advice as to whether it potentially opens a legal hole which you can exploit to get rid of it and get him out. I.e. does him breaking the conditions render the Trusr null & void?

    If he's deliberately messing around with payments, putting YOU into financial debt then that's controlling & coercive behaviour (financial abuse), which whilst it wouldn't have been a criminal offence back in 2008 is absolutely an offence now. Marshall your documents / evidence & report him.
  • luvchocolate
    luvchocolate Posts: 3,388 Forumite
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    Thank you for your reply..it's obvious to me it's the legal side I need to look into. 
    Obviously a solicitor is out of my reach. 
    I'll try citizens advice 
  • caprikid1
    caprikid1 Posts: 2,440 Forumite
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    "I'll try citizens advice " unlikely to be able to give any real advice on trusts etc.

    Home insurance legal cover ?
  • luvchocolate
    luvchocolate Posts: 3,388 Forumite
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    caprikid1 said:
    "I'll try citizens advice " unlikely to be able to give any real advice on trusts etc.

    Home insurance legal cover ?
    Thank you for replying unfortunately just basic content insurance due to funds 
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