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  • Rob5342
    Rob5342 Posts: 2,420 Forumite
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    Once they have defaulted then wait for eomeone to contact you wanting payment before you start paying. Things move slowly so keeo building up your emergency fund while you are waiting to be contacted. 

    DMPs are informal so you can just pay what you want. At some point the creditors will be open to settlement offers, so I'd suggest paying less then you csn afford and putting some money into a settlement offer fund. Once you have settled one you can use the extra money to save for the next.

    I've been on a dmp for four years now, it doesn't take long before you really start to feel on top of everything again. I was apprehensive about starting mine but it's all gone very smoothly moothly and I'm feeling better than I have done for a long time. 
  • ManyWays
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    How much did StepChange suggest you could pay towards a DMP each month, and was that based on your current 60 hour week or a lower amount?

    I have very little in assets and I'm not interested in someone coming taking things from my children's home to put towards my mess. 
    No one visits your home in bankruptcy to see what they can take. Very few people lose any possessions apart from a car (is yours worth over 4k?) or a house with equity (I assume you are renting) and your kids things are not at risk at all. 
  • RAS
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    A couple of pointers

    Do you owe anything to the bank into which your income goes? If so, you need a new basic bank account into which it gets paid, pronto. There's no credit check for a basic account.

    If you rent, future LLs and agencies can see CCJs and check the Insolvency Register, which includes bankruptcy and DROs. 

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  • WBMK
    WBMK Posts: 19 Forumite
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    Rob5342 said:
    Once they have defaulted then wait for eomeone to contact you wanting payment before you start paying. Things move slowly so keeo building up your emergency fund while you are waiting to be contacted. 

    DMPs are informal so you can just pay what you want. At some point the creditors will be open to settlement offers, so I'd suggest paying less then you csn afford and putting some money into a settlement offer fund. Once you have settled one you can use the extra money to save for the next.

    I've been on a dmp for four years now, it doesn't take long before you really start to feel on top of everything again. I was apprehensive about starting mine but it's all gone very smoothly moothly and I'm feeling better than I have done for a long time. 
    Good to know, thanks. My plan is to save as much as possible right now to build my emergency fund then hopefully continue to save a little each month once the payments start, this will be the first time in my adult life that I'll have had actual savings.

    I was a little apprehensive as well after going through this in the past, however last time it was due to genuinely not being able to make any payments, this time I'm feeling more of a sense of control by volunteering to do it.
  • WBMK
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    ManyWays said:
    How much did StepChange suggest you could pay towards a DMP each month, and was that based on your current 60 hour week or a lower amount?

    I have very little in assets and I'm not interested in someone coming taking things from my children's home to put towards my mess. 
    No one visits your home in bankruptcy to see what they can take. Very few people lose any possessions apart from a car (is yours worth over 4k?) or a house with equity (I assume you are renting) and your kids things are not at risk at all. 
    It was around £700ish based on a 60 hour week, I very rarely do less hours.

    Thanks for the info on bankruptcy, I wasn't entirely sure on the process, I'd just read about the possibility of having to sell assets and that's a no for me at the moment, and I'll feel more in control if I'm dealing with this directly. Car is less than £4k and yes we're renting
  • WBMK
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    RAS said:
    A couple of pointers

    Do you owe anything to the bank into which your income goes? If so, you need a new basic bank account into which it gets paid, pronto. There's no credit check for a basic account.

    If you rent, future LLs and agencies can see CCJs and check the Insolvency Register, which includes bankruptcy and DROs. 

    The greatest gift you can give your child is time. So seriously consider the work/life balance.
    I have a small overdraft that I'll clear next week and remove from the account, I've been with this bank for 15 years so would prefer to not have to move everything away from it.

    Unfortunately, the industry I'm in doesn't leave much to work/life balance, however I have gone from working 7 days a week 4 years ago, to 6 days a week 2 years ago, to now only working 5 days a week. I usually do around 10-15 hour nights but usually home before the school run (which the kids love) and have all weekend to spend with the family.
  • EssexHebridean
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    The overdraft - will that be cleared because your salary goes in? If so where does that leave you with priority bills and necessary discretionary spending? I would consider getting that new bank account opened ASAP and getting the details to your payroll department. The overdraft will then just become part of the DMP if that is the route you take. 

    You might spend some time reading people’s experiences on the bankruptcy board here before you dismiss it as an option - while it isn’t for everyone you do appear to be the sort of demographic that it is designed to help. Regardless though, you need a robust budget, so the Statement of Affairs is the first step.

    I would suggest that any payment to a DMP is based on a standard working week, not a 60 hour one. 
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  • ManyWays
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    It was around £700ish based on a 60 hour week, I very rarely do less hours.
    But you and your partner want to reduce your hours, dont you? How much would your joint income dropped if you dropped to 40 hours and they dropped to 32? 
  • WBMK
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    The overdraft - will that be cleared because your salary goes in? If so where does that leave you with priority bills and necessary discretionary spending? I would consider getting that new bank account opened ASAP and getting the details to your payroll department. The overdraft will then just become part of the DMP if that is the route you take. 

    You might spend some time reading people’s experiences on the bankruptcy board here before you dismiss it as an option - while it isn’t for everyone you do appear to be the sort of demographic that it is designed to help. Regardless though, you need a robust budget, so the Statement of Affairs is the first step.

    I would suggest that any payment to a DMP is based on a standard working week, not a 60 hour one. 
    It will be cleared using the first lump of money that would have gone to payments. For reference, I have 3 current accounts that I actively use, 1 that my income is paid into, 1 just for bills and 1 for everyday spending. The overdraft is on the bill account and was there incase I was ever short, lo and behold, it got used. However it doesn't really cost me anything as I get paid weekly so a quarter of the monthly bills gets put into the bill account every week keeping the balance close to zero before being used again. then the rest goes to the everyday spending account. I've always tried to keep my money separated in different accounts to prevent a payment coming out unexpectedly, and so I can keep track and make adjustments if needed.

    Whilst I appreciate that bankruptcy may potentially be a good option, I don't like the idea that someone else is in control of deciding when and how much I pay, I'll feel much better handling it myself and having more control over the situation. It may or may not cost me more overall, but I'm happy to pay for my mistakes providing we can live comfortably at the same time.

    Is there any particular reason for the standard 40 hour week? My basic is 50 hours, however I rarely do less than 60. For info, I'm a HGV Driver, 40-hour week jobs are a rarity in this area and pay less than stacking shelves in Tesco.
  • WBMK
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    ManyWays said:
    It was around £700ish based on a 60 hour week, I very rarely do less hours.
    But you and your partner want to reduce your hours, dont you? How much would your joint income dropped if you dropped to 40 hours and they dropped to 32? 
    We're happy with the hours at the moment, it works for us. I'm a HGV driver and provide the bulk of our income (around 70-75%), there are very very few jobs that would pay well enough that are under 50 hours. My partner works 2 jobs, she works 3 days a week during school times, and she's a carer for a family member and so the hours are pretty flexible and she's able to work it around childcare, etc
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