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State Pension Age Acceleration - Worst Case Scenario

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Hi, at present the state pension age moves to 67 from 2028, but no further increases have been announced until 2040. I can see the move to 68 and beyond being brought forward, and wondered what the worst case might look like?  Could it be increased to 68 in 2029, 69 in 2030 and 70 in 2031 for example?
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  • p00hsticks
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    Hi, at present the state pension age moves to 67 from 2028, but no further increases have been announced until 2040. I can see the move to 68 and beyond being brought forward, and wondered what the worst case might look like?  Could it be increased to 68 in 2029, 69 in 2030 and 70 in 2031 for example?
    Although I think it theoretically possible, I can't imagine it ever being escalated that quickly or with such a short amount of notice - governments have learned their lesson there after previous changes, hence the current commitment to give at least ten years notice of changes.
  • hugheskevi
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    edited 16 February at 2:15PM
    Hi, at present the state pension age moves to 67 from 2028, but no further increases have been announced until 2040. I can see the move to 68 and beyond being brought forward, and wondered what the worst case might look like?  Could it be increased to 68 in 2029, 69 in 2030 and 70 in 2031 for example?
    Although I think it theoretically possible, I can't imagine it ever being escalated that quickly or with such a short amount of notice - governments have learned their lesson there after previous changes, hence the current commitment to give at least ten years notice of changes.
    While I don't disagree, I think it is important to recognise that commitments such as giving at least 10 years of notice for State Pension changes ended when the Govt that gave that commitment was voted out of power, and so is not a current commitment. Commitments only endure if passed into legislation.

    Similarly, the intention to set minimum pension age 10 years behind State Pension age ended when the last Govt was voted out. 

    The promise of 25 years of no change to public service pensions ended when the Coalition govt. that made that pledge finished, albeit leaving the legislative requirement for consultation with a view to reaching agreement with member representatives should a protected element be changed before 2040 (other than if a cost cap or floor breach occurs) that provides some reassurance about future change.

    The current Govt may well share such ambitions, but it should not be assumed this is the case and it is important to distinguish what is a legislative obligation (eg review State Pension age by 2028), a stated objective/commitment of the current Govt (eg retain Triple Lock this Parliament), and something a previous Govt once intended (eg 10 years notice of change to State Pension) as these all give varying degrees of certainty about future change.
  • MacPingu1986
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    Hi, at present the state pension age moves to 67 from 2028, but no further increases have been announced until 2040. I can see the move to 68 and beyond being brought forward, and wondered what the worst case might look like?  Could it be increased to 68 in 2029, 69 in 2030 and 70 in 2031 for example?
    The likelyhood of accelerating increases over such short a timescale are so remote and minimal that I think we can say with confidence they will not happen.

    Increases to the state pension age (or accelerating the time of increase) happen with very long (10ish years per year of change) notice of lead times. It's also important to bear in mind that although the dependency ratio does continue to increase, life expectancy in the UK has now been static for the past decade.

    The next increase to the state pension age to 67 takes place in 2028 (originally 2036) - brought in by the Pension Act 2007 so still 21 years notice with acceleration. The following increase to 68 is scheduled for 2046 - it's likely this will be moved forward to 2037-39 but with no firm plans yet and the government has delayed any changes pending further review. Again - decades of notice.

    We obviously don't know what the future holds, but *if* (and we need to bear in mind this is a big *if* given the flatlining of life expectancy) there are going to be further increases to the state pension age to 69 and 70, a realistic "worst case scenario" in my view would be for the increases, even with acceleration, to come in to effect in the mid 2040s and mid 2050s respectively. 
  • Stubod
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    edited 16 February at 7:38PM
    ..and they could always consider leaving the age limit alone and introduce means testing it instead...
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  • QrizB
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    Stubod said:
    ..and they could always consider leaving the age limit alone and introduce means testing it instead...
    Rather than the "graduate tax" for student loan repayments, a "granny tax" for all those wealthy pensioners?
    I'll drop Rachel an email about it ...

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  • DRS1
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    QrizB said:
    Stubod said:
    ..and they could always consider leaving the age limit alone and introduce means testing it instead...
    Rather than the "graduate tax" for student loan repayments, a "granny tax" for all those wealthy pensioners?
    I'll drop Rachel an email about it ...

    It is easy -just abolish the state pension and use pension credit instead.
  • Stubod
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    ..that'll be a great vote winner!!......
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  • hugheskevi
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    edited 16 February at 9:16PM
    There is also an interesting dynamic now with public service pensions in relation to State Pension age - any increase to State Pension age is a reduction to the value of public service pensions due to the link between Normal Pension age and State Pension age.

    I suspect the current Govt may place a different weight on this dynamic than the previous Govt may have attached to it.

    Assuming a 10+ year notice period, that means annoying a lot of people - possibly a large number who may vote for you - for something that will not benefit an incumbent party either in the current or even the subsequent Parliament.
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