Bread not rising enough before baking it kicks in.

inspector28

I have to switch off my panasonic breadmakers (I've got two) just before they bake, as they don't rise enough. After an hour or so, I bake for 50 minutes.
I can't set & forget like I always used to, as I would end up with a dwarf, solid loaf. I have changed the flour, the yeast, the quantity of water, but nothing improves the bread exept this switching off.

Ergates

Could it be due to lower room temperatures because it's winter?

Aylesbury_Duck

Ergates said:

Could it be due to lower room temperatures because it's winter?

That would be a logical explanation, but I wonder if this model has a warming mode, to create consistent rising conditions?  Even so, colder ingredients would make a difference.

OP - what's the consumer rights question here?  How long have you had them?

sheramber

Have you contacted Panasonic  for advice?

Rodders53

Read the Panasonic bread making machine(s)' manual(s)...

Panasonic cite the various reasons that bread fails to rise appropriately.

(Yeast quality/quantity.  Fat content.  Sugar content.  Flour quality (gluten content).  All add into the mix {pun intended}).

BOTH machines are unlikely to fail identically at the same moment in time so it will be some other factor in common.

Ergates

Rodders53 said:

Read the Panasonic bread making machine(s)' manual(s)...

Panasonic cite the various reasons that bread fails to rise appropriately.

(Yeast quality/quantity.  Fat content.  Sugar content.  Flour quality (gluten content).  All add into the mix {pun intended}).

BOTH machines are unlikely to fail identically at the same moment in time so it will be some other factor in common.

Temperature is another factor - though as Aylesbury_Duck mentioned, the machines might have a warming function.

But when I bake bread (not very often) during the colder month, I raise the dough in an oven with a tray of hot water - otherwise my kitchen isn't warm enough to get a good rise.

beckstar1975

I've had to give up making a loaf in my panasonic machine and just use it for the dough and kneading and to the final prove and back in a tin in the oven. I know it defeats part of the point but the loaves are much nicer, a better shape with no big hole in and are better to eat/keep. I found the machine ones too airy and difficult to cut so they did about 5 slices ( I have teenagers!)

born_again

inspector28 said:

I have to switch off my panasonic breadmakers (I've got two) just before they bake, as they don't rise enough. After an hour or so, I bake for 50 minutes.
I can't set & forget like I always used to, as I would end up with a dwarf, solid loaf. I have changed the flour, the yeast, the quantity of water, but nothing improves the bread exept this switching off.

So if you use the ingredients you did before does it rise as it should?

Even water being colder than normal can cause the problem.

What are you asking in terms of consumer rights?
As no info a when, where etc on your device..

Okell

inspector28 said:

I have to switch off my panasonic breadmakers (I've got two) just before they bake, as they don't rise enough. After an hour or so, I bake for 50 minutes.
I can't set & forget like I always used to, as I would end up with a dwarf, solid loaf. I have changed the flour, the yeast, the quantity of water, but nothing improves the bread exept this switching off.

I think you're posting in the wrong place - it's not a consumer rights question.

Whenever I've asked this sort of question it's been moved here:  Old style MoneySaving — MoneySavingExpert Forum

(Don't ask me why - it makes no sense to me either...)

Slinky

There's a great group on Facebook - 'Panasonic bread maker UK Recipes & Technical' which is incredibly useful with advice for this sort of thing.

I would hazard a guess about the room being cool. Are you using cold water straight from the tap? I always use tepid water and don't have a problem with the rise.

bouicca21

How old is the yeast?  It’s one of the few things where I actually pay attention to the use by date.  Test it by mixing some into a bowl of warm water and sugar to see how active it is.