Pro rata pay

caz9101

I work 3 hours a day at a school and get £644 every month throughout the year even during the school holidays.Im not the cleverest of people and wondered am I actually getting paid the right amount.Im 55

Flugelhorn

If schools are open 190 days a year and you do 3 hours a day then that is 570 hours a year (though I guess you may do some hours  outside the school holidays eg before and after term?

570 hours would be 47.5hrs a calendar month - £13,50 an hour- does that sound right?

maisie_cat

Assuming you work 39 weeks or 195 days = 585 hours a year, including term time bank holidays which you may or may not work. 
It's also not clear whether you take ad-hoc paid leave days during term time.

Let's say that you work all term without days off and are entitled to 28 days paid leave including bank holidays which is another 84 hours
You should therefore be paid for 669 hours (585+84)
The gross pay of £644 x 12 = £7728 which is £11.55 an hour.

caz9101

maisie_cat said:

Assuming you work 39 weeks or 195 days = 585 hours a year, including term time bank holidays which you may or may not work. 
It's also not clear whether you take ad-hoc paid leave days during term time.

Let's say that you work all term without days off and are entitled to 28 days paid leave including bank holidays which is another 84 hours
You should therefore be paid for 669 hours (585+84)
The gross pay of £644 x 12 = £7728 which is £11.55 an hour.

Thanks from r the reply.
The school is open 200 days a year,which I work 3 hours a day.Im not entitled to holiday as my holiday is when the school is shut but the bank holidays I do get paid for which is included in my pay of £644 pro rata.So am I getting paid enough still?

jackieblack

caz9101 said:

maisie_cat said:

Assuming you work 39 weeks or 195 days = 585 hours a year, including term time bank holidays which you may or may not work. 
It's also not clear whether you take ad-hoc paid leave days during term time.

Let's say that you work all term without days off and are entitled to 28 days paid leave including bank holidays which is another 84 hours
You should therefore be paid for 669 hours (585+84)
The gross pay of £644 x 12 = £7728 which is £11.55 an hour.

Thanks from r the reply.
The school is open 200 days a year,which I work 3 hours a day.Im not entitled to holiday as my holiday is when the school is shut but the bank holidays I do get paid for which is included in my pay of £644 pro rata.So am I getting paid enough still?

It’s impossible to say without knowing either your hourly rate or FTE annual salary.
What does your contract say?

State schools in England are open 190 days  for pupils plus 5 non pupil/inset days (not sure about elsewhere).  Is this an independent school? (Although they usually have fewer pupil days) or not in England?

Flugelhorn

caz9101 said:

maisie_cat said:

Assuming you work 39 weeks or 195 days = 585 hours a year, including term time bank holidays which you may or may not work. 
It's also not clear whether you take ad-hoc paid leave days during term time.

Let's say that you work all term without days off and are entitled to 28 days paid leave including bank holidays which is another 84 hours
You should therefore be paid for 669 hours (585+84)
The gross pay of £644 x 12 = £7728 which is £11.55 an hour.

Thanks from r the reply.
The school is open 200 days a year,which I work 3 hours a day.Im not entitled to holiday as my holiday is when the school is shut but the bank holidays I do get paid for which is included in my pay of £644 pro rata.So am I getting paid enough still?

you are actually entitled to holiday pay even if you have to take the holiday when the schools are shut - it is 12.07% of the hours you work so would get 72 hours pay = total of 672 hours per years 

caz9101

jackieblack said:

caz9101 said:

maisie_cat said:

Assuming you work 39 weeks or 195 days = 585 hours a year, including term time bank holidays which you may or may not work. 
It's also not clear whether you take ad-hoc paid leave days during term time.

Let's say that you work all term without days off and are entitled to 28 days paid leave including bank holidays which is another 84 hours
You should therefore be paid for 669 hours (585+84)
The gross pay of £644 x 12 = £7728 which is £11.55 an hour.

Thanks from r the reply.
The school is open 200 days a year,which I work 3 hours a day.Im not entitled to holiday as my holiday is when the school is shut but the bank holidays I do get paid for which is included in my pay of £644 pro rata.So am I getting paid enough still?

It’s impossible to say without knowing either your hourly rate or FTE annual salary.
What does your contract say?

State schools in England are open 190 days  for pupils plus 5 non pupil/inset days (not sure about elsewhere).  Is this an independent school? (Although they usually have fewer pupil days) or not in England?

No it's a state school and it's the hourly rate what I'm trying to work out as feel I'm not even getting the minimum wage 

Flugelhorn

caz9101 said:

jackieblack said:

caz9101 said:

maisie_cat said:

Assuming you work 39 weeks or 195 days = 585 hours a year, including term time bank holidays which you may or may not work. 
It's also not clear whether you take ad-hoc paid leave days during term time.

Let's say that you work all term without days off and are entitled to 28 days paid leave including bank holidays which is another 84 hours
You should therefore be paid for 669 hours (585+84)
The gross pay of £644 x 12 = £7728 which is £11.55 an hour.

Thanks from r the reply.
The school is open 200 days a year,which I work 3 hours a day.Im not entitled to holiday as my holiday is when the school is shut but the bank holidays I do get paid for which is included in my pay of £644 pro rata.So am I getting paid enough still?

It’s impossible to say without knowing either your hourly rate or FTE annual salary.
What does your contract say?

State schools in England are open 190 days  for pupils plus 5 non pupil/inset days (not sure about elsewhere).  Is this an independent school? (Although they usually have fewer pupil days) or not in England?

No it's a state school and it's the hourly rate what I'm trying to work out as feel I'm not even getting the minimum wage 

I reckon at 672 hours  @ £7728 per year so that means £11.50 v similar to @maisie_cat

what did the contract say?

jackieblack

caz9101 said:

jackieblack said:

caz9101 said:

maisie_cat said:

Assuming you work 39 weeks or 195 days = 585 hours a year, including term time bank holidays which you may or may not work. 
It's also not clear whether you take ad-hoc paid leave days during term time.

Let's say that you work all term without days off and are entitled to 28 days paid leave including bank holidays which is another 84 hours
You should therefore be paid for 669 hours (585+84)
The gross pay of £644 x 12 = £7728 which is £11.55 an hour.

Thanks from r the reply.
The school is open 200 days a year,which I work 3 hours a day.Im not entitled to holiday as my holiday is when the school is shut but the bank holidays I do get paid for which is included in my pay of £644 pro rata.So am I getting paid enough still?

It’s impossible to say without knowing either your hourly rate or FTE annual salary.
What does your contract say?

State schools in England are open 190 days  for pupils plus 5 non pupil/inset days (not sure about elsewhere).  Is this an independent school? (Although they usually have fewer pupil days) or not in England?

No it's a state school and it's the hourly rate what I'm trying to work out as feel I'm not even getting the minimum wage 

What does your contract say? Are you paid on NJC scale?

If so, the minimum scale 1 point is now 2, which is £12.26 an hour (outside London)  https://neu.org.uk/advice/member-groups/support-staff/pay-scales

A Term time only contract is usually 38 working weeks which means 43.5 paid weeks including paid annual leave or 39 weeks (including inset days) which is 44.7 paid weeks 

The salary calculation is:
(paid weeks/52.14) x (hours per week/37) x FTE salary 

so if pt 2 would be:

(43.5/52.14) x (15/37) x £23656 = £8001.08 pa, which is £666.75 pm gross
With pension contributions at 5.5%, 0 tax or NI, take home pay would be around £630
or
(44.7/52.14) x (15/37) x £23656 = £8221.80 pa, £685.15 pm gross
With pension contributions at 5.5%, 0 tax or NI, take home pay would be around £647

So, is the £644 you’re receiving your take home pay?
Are you definitely paid for 15 hours a week?
What is your tax code?
And, most importantly, what does your contract say?