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Thescubadiver
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Hi I have a friend who has found himself in a bit of a pickle and am after some advice to help him
He has a shop which provides a service to customers, he is also a sole trader
this is what he currently owes
Personal loans and credit cards £26,686.00
Business loans and credit cards £58,601.58
Business overdraft £19,998.84
VAT Man £60,000.00
Tax £30,000.00
Customers £24,665.00
Suppliers £18,400.00
Liberis £34,318.76
Total £272,675.60
As you can see its a lot of money
He does have a car worth £2000.00
He has managed to get another job starting in January with a take home of £1997.00 a month
His wife currently has debts of £14,105.00
Plus car finance currently owing £15,45.00
There monthly expenditure is
Rent £1300.00
gas/elec £155.00
water £71.00
council tax £202.00
life ins £20.00
food £580.00 ( 2 adults and 2 kids)
Travel £120.00
phone £160.00
TV £15.00
clothing £20.00
health care £56.50
car ins £130.00 (both)
Sky £130.00
Total £2,959.50
His wife brings home £1700.00 + his new wage £1997.00 = £3697.00
child benefit £110.00
Total income £3807.00
but his wife has payments for her car and credit cards of £1086.00
so they will have a short fall of £238.50
when he goes bankrupt and fills out the form does he just put in his half of the bills
if so he will have an excess of around £500.00 a month, do you think he will have to pay this towards his debts ?
But if this is the case his wife will have a rather large shortfall for her outgoings
Any advice would be greatly appreciated as he is having to do this himself as he did go and see
someone but they wanted £3K to do it
He has a shop which provides a service to customers, he is also a sole trader
this is what he currently owes
Personal loans and credit cards £26,686.00
Business loans and credit cards £58,601.58
Business overdraft £19,998.84
VAT Man £60,000.00
Tax £30,000.00
Customers £24,665.00
Suppliers £18,400.00
Liberis £34,318.76
Total £272,675.60
As you can see its a lot of money
He does have a car worth £2000.00
He has managed to get another job starting in January with a take home of £1997.00 a month
His wife currently has debts of £14,105.00
Plus car finance currently owing £15,45.00
There monthly expenditure is
Rent £1300.00
gas/elec £155.00
water £71.00
council tax £202.00
life ins £20.00
food £580.00 ( 2 adults and 2 kids)
Travel £120.00
phone £160.00
TV £15.00
clothing £20.00
health care £56.50
car ins £130.00 (both)
Sky £130.00
Total £2,959.50
His wife brings home £1700.00 + his new wage £1997.00 = £3697.00
child benefit £110.00
Total income £3807.00
but his wife has payments for her car and credit cards of £1086.00
so they will have a short fall of £238.50
when he goes bankrupt and fills out the form does he just put in his half of the bills
if so he will have an excess of around £500.00 a month, do you think he will have to pay this towards his debts ?
But if this is the case his wife will have a rather large shortfall for her outgoings
Any advice would be greatly appreciated as he is having to do this himself as he did go and see
someone but they wanted £3K to do it
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He needs to fill-in his expenditure much more accurately than he has there. That’s quite a lot missing (car tax and maintenance? Petrol? Birthdays and Christmas for the children?) and I’d be surprised if he was paying sky £130 a month. is that really £160 for one phone?
Has he looked at the SOA templates at all?All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.
Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.0 -
Thanks no i download a form form citizen advice but will look at SOA templates
The £160.00 is for both phones and yes they are currently paying £130.00 a month for sky0 -
He may find that the official receiver would query that level of cost. What does the sky payment cover?All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.
Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.0 -
He needs to separate out his business debts from his personal debt, as in what is "tax"? HMRC aren't particularly forgiving.
Once he knows what he owes to whom business wise, he needs to speak to www.businessdebtlne.org, assuming England or Wales.If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing1 -
RAS said:He needs to separate out his business debts from his personal debt, as in what is "tax"? HMRC aren't particularly forgiving.
Once he knows what he owes to whom business wise, he needs to speak to www.businessdebtlne.org, assuming England or Wales.
Will all his debts not go together as he is a sole trader ?
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elsien said:He may find that the official receiver would query that level of cost. What does the sky payment cover?
I have googled the SOA form but do you know where I can find one that shows what the allowed expenses are ?0 -
https://bankruptcyguide.co.uk/bankruptcy-living-expenses-allowances/He needs to put in some day out or entertainment expenses as well. He has two children. It’s not reasonable to expect that nothing is done with them.All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.
Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.1 -
How has he managed to end up owing customers nearly £25k? Don’t they pay him?0
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Keep_pedalling said:How has he managed to end up owing customers nearly £25k? Don’t they pay him?1
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So it possible that he'll be also facing Trading Standards investigation? He could have asked the clients to buy the materials.If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing0
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