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  • EnPointe
    EnPointe Posts: 844 Forumite
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    DE_612183 said:
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    I was an IT contractor for years and certain companies excluded us from things like Christmas parties etc.
    yep not an employee,  IR 35 and all that  you can't  privatise the pay and nationalise the  perks  
  • Andy_L
    Andy_L Posts: 13,028 Forumite
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    edited 13 August at 9:00AM
    Marcon said:
    DE_612183 said:
    They can decide who gets the bonus and who doesn't - unless they discriminate based on protected characteristics - such as race, religion, sexual orientation etc.

    Whilst this may not be fair, the company may shoot themselves in the foot if they think they will get the same work ethic from temporary workers as permanent ones.

    I was an IT contractor for years and certain companies excluded us from things like Christmas parties etc.
    Much of the perceived unfairness in employment is perfectly lawful and this is what matters whether an action or inaction is lawful or not. Not giving bonus payments to temp workers just because they are temp workers is not unlawful
    No entitlement whatsoever, temp workers are disposable tools.
    You are employed until they don't have a use for you anymore.

    Sorry to be brutal about it but it's naive to think that the company has any loyalty to you.
    They might dress it up and pretend that you're part of the team but you're really not.
    They won't give you a bonus because they don't need to...
    Hmmm...The Fixed-term Employees (Prevention of Less Favourable Treatment) Regulations 2002 came into force on 1 October 2002.

    'Less favourable treatment could occur when a fixed-term employee does not receive the same benefits as a comparable permanent employee (whether these are contractual or non-contractual) or is offered a benefit on less favourable terms.  For example, a fixed-term employee may be offered fewer days holiday, or may not be entitled to participate in the employer’s bonus scheme.' 

    Clearly not everyone has heard of/understood the impact! There needs to be 'objective justification' for treating  temps differently, and none of the ideas outlined above is likely to cut much ice.

    Surely there is a difference between a fixed term contract and being a temp?

    When I have had temps they haven't had fixed term contracts


    What sort of contract have they had instead that made them temporary? Agency, ZHC or Did you just rely on the <2years lack of most employment rights to fire them?
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