How to set up a traditional personal pension

Hi,
I have funds in a SIPP which I would like to transfer into a traditional personal pension to avoid the high running costs of the SIPP platform. Can I do this by myself or will the personal pension providers only deal with IFAs acting on my behalf?
Thank you for your advice.

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  • Albermarle
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    There are many personal pension providers who will be happy to deal with you direct without an IFA.
    The obvious question is what are the high running costs of the Sipp, as some are very cheap ?
  • Marcon
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    Hi,
    I have funds in a SIPP which I would like to transfer into a traditional personal pension to avoid the high running costs of the SIPP platform. Can I do this by myself or will the personal pension providers only deal with IFAs acting on my behalf?
    Thank you for your advice.
    Are you sure it's the actual SIPP, rather than the cost of the underlying funds in which you are invested?
    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
  • There are many personal pension providers who will be happy to deal with you direct without an IFA.
    The obvious question is what are the high running costs of the Sipp, as some are very cheap ?
    The SIPP is moneyfarm, not known for having the lowest fees (currently 0.45%) and competitive yield. I recently found out that InvestmentEngine have a flat 0.15% fee on theirs and performs better.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,416 Forumite
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    edited 25 November 2024 at 10:46AM
    I have funds in a SIPP which I would like to transfer into a traditional personal pension to avoid the high running costs of the SIPP platform.
    SIPPs can vary from low cost to high cost.  Personal pensions can vary from low cost to high cost.  The actual pension type isn't a driver in costs.

    The only time I use a personal pension is with low knowledge transactional clients and even in that case, it is more expensive than the lowest cost SIPP I can use.

    The SIPP is moneyfarm, not known for having the lowest fees (currently 0.45%) and competitive yield. I recently found out that InvestmentEngine have a flat 0.15% fee on theirs and performs better.
    Are you talking about their SIPP product or their robo product?
    The robo product is not a SIPP and would be more expensive.
    When it comes to SIPPs, performance is irrelevant as SIPPs have the same investment options (ignoring the products that may call themselves a SIPP despite not being so).  So, you can hold the same investments in SIPP A, B or C and therefore returns would be the same.
    Yields would also be the same.  However, different platforms/providers may use different snapshot dates to display the yield on the same funds.   That can lead to small differences in the display of the figure but the yield is identical.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • Thank you all for your useful comments so far.

    @dunstonh, I use their robot product. In that respect, I suspect you might suggest that 0.45% management is a decent deal?
  • dunstonh
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    @dunstonh, I use their robot product. In that respect, I suspect you might suggest that 0.45% management is a decent deal?


    0.45% is just one part of the charge.  You need to add on 0.30% if in their active funds or 0.17% in their passive.  

    Nowadays, lower cost SIPP charges are in the 0.15% to 0.2% ballpark.  Add on 0.20% for a multi-asset fund or tracker and the total cost is cheaper.






    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
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