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  • Rob5342
    Rob5342 Posts: 2,486 Forumite
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    Isn't there something about the CCA not existing if debts have been combined? I'm sure that @sourcrates mentioned it once.
  • Fresh44
    Fresh44 Posts: 13 Forumite
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    Thanks for your replies, this has god me a little miffed as all the others have been plain sailing. I’m unsure what to do next with ACI and this inflated balance. These are the last 2 debts. Do I respond to ACI? I havnt even had a default yet for the 2 updraft loans . 
  • RAS
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    Just put in the affordability complaint. Might take a time but if you win it's likely they'll have to stop reporting it on your credit record.
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • Fresh44
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    Would I need to put an affordability complaint in with updraft? Or ACI? Thanks for your reply 
  • sourcrates
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    Rob5342 said:
    Isn't there something about the CCA not existing if debts have been combined? I'm sure that @sourcrates mentioned it once.
    When companies combine debts like this, it makes it easier for them to manage, but also renders them irredeemably unenforceable in court.

    They created an account that previously never existed, so there will be no credit agreement for the debt, no financial details regarding repayment, non of the terms and conditions will apply to it, it has been artificially created on their computer, so much is wrong with doing this.

    Ask for the CCA, they won`t be able to provide one as there never was one.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • Fresh44
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    Rob5342 said:
    Isn't there something about the CCA not existing if debts have been combined? I'm sure that @sourcrates mentioned it once.
    When companies combine debts like this, it makes it easier for them to manage, but also renders them irredeemably unenforceable in court.

    They created an account that previously never existed, so there will be no credit agreement for the debt, no financial details regarding repayment, non of the terms and conditions will apply to it, it has been artificially created on their computer, so much is wrong with doing this.

    Ask for the CCA, they won`t be able to provide one as there never was one.
    I will ask for a CCA. Could they still be awkward and try home visits, court action whilst I’m asking for this? 
  • Rob5342
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    edited 6 June at 9:18PM
    Fresh44 said:
    Rob5342 said:
    Isn't there something about the CCA not existing if debts have been combined? I'm sure that @sourcrates mentioned it once.
    When companies combine debts like this, it makes it easier for them to manage, but also renders them irredeemably unenforceable in court.

    They created an account that previously never existed, so there will be no credit agreement for the debt, no financial details regarding repayment, non of the terms and conditions will apply to it, it has been artificially created on their computer, so much is wrong with doing this.

    Ask for the CCA, they won`t be able to provide one as there never was one.
    I will ask for a CCA. Could they still be awkward and try home visits, court action whilst I’m asking for this? 
    If they don't produce the CCA within 12 days of you asking for it then they cant take any legal action until they do. They can always do home visits if they choose, most collectors won't bother with that but if they do then they have as much power as a double glazing salesman and can be dealt with in the same way. 
  • sourcrates
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    Fresh44 said:
    I will ask for a CCA. Could they still be awkward and try home visits, court action whilst I’m asking for this? 
    Making a request for information under sec 77 CCA, has the beneficial effect of putting your account effectively "on hold" until they send you what is required.

    So no, collection activity should pause whilst this is actioned.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • Fresh44
    Fresh44 Posts: 13 Forumite
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    Hi all it’s been a whilst since I’ve been on, I put a CCA request into ACI and they havnt been back in touch. Before I asked for the CCA, I asked it there was a default date for the debt and they sent me an email confirming the default date. Total owed etc. I’ve checked my credit report and it says I’ve got an Arrangement to pay in place which obviously I’m not happy about. 

    I have contacted updraft and sent them the email from ACI stating the default date and have said I want the arrangement to pay removed from my credit report and I’ve also put an affordability complaint in due to the debt I was in when I took the 2 loans out. Do you think this AP will get removed? Thanks 
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