Payroll Dept Incompetence - P45

trevjl

Sorry for the long waffle but want to get all facts in there.
I retired 6 weeks ago on 6th September. My final pay came through as normal on 25th followed a day later by my P45.
I noticed that I was about £1400 short in the pay (quite a normal occurrence for the payroll dept, Incompetent does not begin to describe them). It has taken me 3 weeks and one very to the point email to get it sorted and paid up.
They have paid this as a pay payment for period 7 (25th Oct), even though my "final pay" date was period 6. This of course means my P45 is complete nonsense.
I pointed out this would be the case and as I need to reclaim some tax it needs to be corrected.
Then yesterday I received a letter from them, which is basically a a "statement of earnings" letter with the pay/tax information, addressed to "Dear sir/madam. No accompanying covering letter.
Are the HMRC really going to accept this in the place of the erroneous P45 ?
The way I see it and I am only guessing, is that HMRC have my P45 and my figures will not tally with it therefore I can see all sorts of back and forth for months on end.

Dazed_and_C0nfused

trevjl said:

Sorry for the long waffle but want to get all facts in there.
I retired 6 weeks ago on 6th September. My final pay came through as normal on 25th followed a day later by my P45.
I noticed that I was about £1400 short in the pay (quite a normal occurrence for the payroll dept, Incompetent does not begin to describe them). It has taken me 3 weeks and one very to the point email to get it sorted and paid up.
They have paid this as a pay payment for period 7 (25th Oct), even though my "final pay" date was period 6. This of course means my P45 is complete nonsense.
I pointed out this would be the case and as I need to reclaim some tax it needs to be corrected.
Then yesterday I received a letter from them, which is basically a a "statement of earnings" letter with the pay/tax information, addressed to "Dear sir/madam. No accompanying covering letter.
Are the HMRC really going to accept this in the place of the erroneous P45 ?
The way I see it and I am only guessing, is that HMRC have my P45 and my figures will not tally with it therefore I can see all sorts of back and forth for months on end.

You are a bit out of touch with payroll procedures.

Employers stopped sending P45's to HMRC over 10 years ago now, everything (for HMRC) relies on Real Time Information (RTI) submissions.

HMRC guidance states that once a P45 has been issued (to you) then it won't be changed, if a payment is made after your P45 has been issued then they will report the details to HMRC via RTI but give you a letter not a new or amended P45.

https://www.gov.uk/employee-leaving

Have you checked your Personal Tax Account to see what info HMRC are showing?

tizerbelle

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

You are a bit out of touch with payroll procedures.

Employers stopped sending P45's to HMRC over 10 years ago now, everything (for HMRC) relies on Real Time Information (RTI) submissions.

HMRC guidance states that once a P45 has been issued (to you) then it won't be changed, if a payment is made after your P45 has been issued then they will report the details to HMRC via RTI but give you a letter not a new or amended P45.

https://www.gov.uk/employee-leaving

Have you checked your Personal Tax Account to see what info HMRC are showing?

Dazed_and_confused is correct apart from one really minor point - it does not have to be a letter for a payment after leaving - a payslip or any other document showing the payment amount and tax paid is acceptable.  

trevjl

Thanks, indeed I did not know that.
I have checked and it has not been updated since I left. I will give it a while and then check again before submitting a claim for rebate.
On there there is also a bit about UK dividend incomes show £170, it this an estimated from last year ?

Dazed_and_C0nfused

trevjl said:

Thanks, indeed I did not know that.
I have checked and it has not been updated since I left. I will give it a while and then check again before submitting a claim for rebate.
On there there is also a bit about UK dividend incomes show £170, it this an estimated from last year ?

It will be an estimate from whenever you last provided dividend income details to HMRC.

Could be from last year, could be 10 years ago.

sheramber

As the payment is for period to 25 October it won’t be reported yet.