Nhs notice period after 2 days (training period)

billiepiper14

Hi

I secured full time employment in nhs and after over 2 months pre employment checks I finally got into training for the role only to be offered my dream job on my first day. The recruiting manager is on long term sick so rather than have a conversation as to when I could be released,  (as the new job are very proactive and asking for a notice period) I had to email HR and they came back with 4 weeks as per my contract.

I would obviously like to save everyone time training me & mutually agree a date sooner but the other manager is on annual leave until 22nd October. The training is said to be ongoing for months.

Whats anyone’s thoughts on this. Another NHS manager from an old job said they have this all time and people just leave but I’m worried about possible consequences. Has anyone any thoughts on this. I don’t want to inconvenience anyone. Thanks in advance 

DullGreyGuy

billiepiper14 said:

I secured full time employment in nhs and after over 2 months pre employment checks I finally got into training for the role only to be offered my dream job on my first day. The recruiting manager is on long term sick so rather than have a conversation as to when I could be released,  (as the new job are very proactive and asking for a notice period) I had to email HR and they came back with 4 weeks as per my contract.

I would obviously like to save everyone time training me & mutually agree a date sooner but the other manager is on annual leave until 22nd October. The training is said to be ongoing for months.

Whats anyone’s thoughts on this. Another NHS manager from an old job said they have this all time and people just leave but I’m worried about possible consequences. Has anyone any thoughts on this. I don’t want to inconvenience anyone. Thanks in advance 

Is your new job also NHS? Is it within the same part of the NHS?

If its "internal" then there may be established protocols, when working for a banking group internal transfers were always 1 months notice rather than the 3 months that most manager grades would need to give for an external role. 

It would seem sensible for everyone that you aren't held to your full notice period assuming you are just doing training... if its part training part working then it may be less certain. You can only tell however by discussing it with your manager. If they are on holidays is there a peer of his or his boss in their absence? They could at least guide you as to who to speak to. 

You could just leave but in most companies that will be logged as dismissal for gross misconduct (though some do "assumed resignation") and may become problematic for future pre-employment checks. Assuming the new job works out then it may not be a big problem but you wouldn't be the first to find their dream job isn't as much as a dream as they'd hoped and find themselves back on the recuitment trail. 

billiepiper14

Thankyou for your reply no it’s not within the nhs. It would be training this week and then in job training for quite some time. Last thing I want is to leave under a cloud as eager as I am to get in my new position which is related to my studies and substantially more money. 

TELLIT01

If I was an employer I would be more annoyed if I had wasted 4 weeks time and money training somebody for them then to leave.  I would initially get back on to HR and clarify that you are only a couple of days into training and believe it is a waste of everybody's time and effort for you to continue with the training and suggest leaving immediately.  I really don't see how that wouldn't be in their best interests.

It would clearly cost the OP pay for the rest of the notice period, but they may then be able to bring forward the starting date for the new job.  Check with the new employer how soon they want them to start.  If they say to start in 4 weeks the OP could go through the motions if HR say they have to work the notice period.  Some HR departments/people are really good and see the reality of a situation, but others still absolutely to the rules!

billiepiper14

Hi Thankyou just to mention I don’t have an unconditional offer yet but they have already sent out for references and are communicating daily about notice periods etc 

Marcon

billiepiper14 said:

Hi Thankyou just to mention I don’t have an unconditional offer yet but they have already sent out for references and are communicating daily about notice periods etc 

Whoa! You don't have an unconditional offer...they are putting you under pressure...there are stars in your eyes...

Just hold fire. You've been offered the job, so you now need to calmly but firmly insist that you are sure they will appreciate that you can't resign until their offer is unconditional, but as soon as that happens, you will press your current employer to reduce your contractual notice period of 4 weeks (because you are so keen to start you new job -  don't be afraid to say that).

General_Grant

If it is "in job training" for future weeks then your work contribution would be valuable in any case.
If I were your manager I could well want you to serve your full notice period doing what you can do competently under any necessary supervision and also perhaps concentrate on making use of you for that rather than include training in the time.

If I were in your position, I would tell the potential employer that I will have to give my full notice once I have their unconditional offer of employment.  I might continue with saying that I could try shortening the time before joining them by, perhaps, taking some paid leave at the end of the notice period if allowed to do so or trying negotiating a shorter period.