New employment consultation after the acquisition

Emmia

JohnBravo said:

Thanks everyone for your input.
Ok, I understand now it is 5.6 weeks + bank holidays (20+8).
The employer has declared 25 so I don't know if this makes it 25+8 (33) or 17+8 (25).

In my case it boils down to a lot of unused and in the end unpaid holiday over the years. I think it is over 70 days in total that I have not used. You know a small business, no substitutes and workaholic superiors who use even less holiday what sets an example but I think it's a bad example, an abuse.
You think it's professionalism but it's just ADHD/OCD talking. I think profit incentive and profits is just an outcome of the personality disorder.
In the end there is a profound difference between working for a company and working in a company.

Ultimately you need to ensure you take the holiday to which you are entitled. 70 days of A/L equates to ~2.5 months of work you've given the company for free, that you'll never be paid for.

JohnBravo

Thank you for you input so far.
Has anyone went through something similar in the past?
I have to be prepared. The reason the HR hires an external consultant/consultants to do the negotiation must be for a reason.

Emmia

JohnBravo said:

Thank you for you input so far.
Has anyone went through something similar in the past?
I have to be prepared. The reason the HR hires an external consultant/consultants to do the negotiation must be for a reason.

Probably to ensure there's no perceived bias, the consultants will be professionals trained and experienced in this area.

JohnBravo

So how do you think is it feasible for me to negotiate 25+8 holidays and/or pay rise?
I just wanted to know if this negotiation can be used for that or just a formality.

EnPointe

Undervalued said:

EnPointe said:

Marcon said:

JohnBravo said:

Hi All,

I hope you are well.
The company I work for has been acquired and as I write this a handful of employees are being on-boarded to the new company including myself.
From the HR department of a parent/new company I heard that the employees will be interviewed 1-on-1 by some external consultant(s) they hire to negotiate the new terms.

At the old place I was employed without a contract so as I heard from others the statutory terms apply e.g. 20 days of holiday.
My old boss has apparently declared/pre-negotiated? that we have 25 days off annually but how realistic this is I don't know. I think the new employer could easily verify that by asking for the existing contract if this figure is indeed based on that.

I wanted to ask anybody who had gone through a similar process so I can get prepared rather than not. I also think about asking for a pay raise. I think it's a good opportunity to do that rather than after I agree to the new terms.

Please advise.
Thank you

You had a contract; it just wasn't in writing.

Statutory annual leave for a full time worker is 5.6 weeks, or 28 days.

Was this a transfer covered by TUPE?

20 holiday   + 8 public holidays   leave  is where the 5.6  weeks comes from 

It may be "where it comes from" and that is certainly how it works out in practice for many people but there is no legal entitlement to public holidays, not even Christmas Day. The entitlement, for a full time employee, is simply 5.6 weeks (28 days) paid holiday per year to be taken when the employer chooses.

you appear to have missed the point  here 

EnPointe

JohnBravo said:

Thanks everyone for your input.
Ok, I understand now it is 5.6 weeks + bank holidays (20+8).
The employer has declared 25 so I don't know if this makes it 25+8 (33) or 17+8 (25).

In my case it boils down to a lot of unused and in the end unpaid holiday over the years. I think it is over 70 days in total that I have not used. You know a small business, no substitutes and workaholic superiors who use even less holiday what sets an example but I think it's a bad example, an abuse.
You think it's professionalism but it's just ADHD/OCD talking. I think profit incentive and profits is just an outcome of the personality disorder.
In the end there is a profound difference between working for a company and working in a company.

  It's likely it's 25 +8  unless you   all work a 4  on 4 off long days pattern when  in some cases the leave  'days'  ( as opposed to Public holidays)  are based on the  long shift   

in  reality the systems  just do it in hours  a lot of the time 

JohnBravo

ok, it has been clarified to me that this is covered by TUPE