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I am due to take my DB Pension in January which also has a significant Tax Free Lump sum in excess of £100k which I built up in linked AVCs through my working life always planning to use these as the Tax Free part of my pension.

I have contacted the Pension provider to see if I could draw say 3 months early to beat the budget potential of a drop in Tax Free Lump sum allowable but they say it is now too late process.

What are the chances of Reeves slashing the Tax Free lump sum with immediate effect after the budget? If she does I feel that would be grossly unfair on people who have planned carefully throughout their life to have the rules changed at the last minute.

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  • Albermarle
    Albermarle Posts: 28,034 Forumite
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    philng said:
    I am due to take my DB Pension in January which also has a significant Tax Free Lump sum in excess of £100k which I built up in linked AVCs through my working life always planning to use these as the Tax Free part of my pension.

    I have contacted the Pension provider to see if I could draw say 3 months early to beat the budget potential of a drop in Tax Free Lump sum allowable but they say it is now too late process.

    What are the chances of Reeves slashing the Tax Free lump sum with immediate effect after the budget? If she does I feel that would be grossly unfair on people who have planned carefully throughout their life to have the rules changed at the last minute.
    There is a lot of fevered speculation about the budget. Most of it will be wrong.
    The maximum tax free lump sum has already been eroded significantly by inflation in the last few years, and probably that is how it will continue.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,776 Forumite
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    What are the chances of Reeves slashing the Tax Free lump sum with immediate effect after the budget?
    non-existent to extremely low.

    There is already a cap on tax free cash and Labour have said they are happy with the current level.     Yes, they could flip flop again but that will only hurt small savers/investors when they are targeting higher wealth.

    The current cap suits Labour as its hard set to have fiscal drag and they don't need to take any political hit by dragging it lower. 
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
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    philng said:
    I am due to take my DB Pension in January which also has a significant Tax Free Lump sum in excess of £100k which I built up in linked AVCs through my working life always planning to use these as the Tax Free part of my pension.

    I have contacted the Pension provider to see if I could draw say 3 months early to beat the budget potential of a drop in Tax Free Lump sum allowable but they say it is now too late process.

    What are the chances of Reeves slashing the Tax Free lump sum with immediate effect after the budget? If she does I feel that would be grossly unfair on people who have planned carefully throughout their life to have the rules changed at the last minute.
    philng said:
    I am due to take my DB Pension in January which also has a significant Tax Free Lump sum in excess of £100k which I built up in linked AVCs through my working life always planning to use these as the Tax Free part of my pension.

    I have contacted the Pension provider to see if I could draw say 3 months early to beat the budget potential of a drop in Tax Free Lump sum allowable but they say it is now too late process.

    What are the chances of Reeves slashing the Tax Free lump sum with immediate effect after the budget? If she does I feel that would be grossly unfair on people who have planned carefully throughout their life to have the rules changed at the last minute.
    I think very unlikely, it would have so many negative effects. It would set an awful precedent and perhaps even be challengeable  in court? If you plan for a few years based on legislation then changing it needs to be over a few years, like the idea of 10yrs for any  SP age change. IF there is a change I really doubt it would be before April, like others have said, just let inflation erode it. Jeremy Hunt started that, they just need to leave that alone. A
    so doubt they will reintroduce the LTA or at least reintroduce it at well north of £1m. If not lots of docs and other ‘professionals ‘ will jump as they will have chucked lots of dough into their pensions/avc/additional SIPPS. I would, amazingly I’m more or less at £1m due to the way DBs are valued
  • They have said they wont remove the tax free lump sum but not said if they might reduce it. There is a real risk it could drop from the current 260Kish  level to a lower figure( 200 or 150 might not surprise me).   I have seen that there is a 30 day cooling off period with my pension provider. I have just moved 230K out of my pension tax free but if the rules dont change it appears I can move it back within the 30 days.   It seems this is a very real way of protecting your pot in advance of budget day.....    Also if you dont take any taxable money out - just the lump sum you can still continue to put into your pension at the current rate. It only drops to £10K if you take any taxable income. If you are at or near or over the £1.06M limit then this is a very good move.   Check with your provider to see if they have the same 30 day rule.
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