Who's running the highest miles?

motorguy

WellKnownSid said:

Photo of my FIAT Marea Weekend hitting 300k (km) on the clock - sold it about two years later with a shade under 400k - around 245k miles.  Alternator replaced at 340k.  Original clutch but the clutch pedal fell apart at 380k.  

My next door neighbour's E-class diesel was on 600,000km - also on the original clutch.

I'd a FIAT Marea JTD about 10 years ago.  Bought it £70 with 10 months MOT.  I drove that car for 10 months on an 80 mile return commute.  Never missed a beat.  Chassis rot got it though and i'd to sell it as scrap.  Still, was cheap motoring!

motorguy

Its good to hear of all these high miles cars.  Theres still a lot of teeth sucking goes on when you try to sell a car with 100K+ miles.

I guess the trick is to keep on driving them once they get to biggish miles.  

Goudy

Grumpy_chap said:

Goudy said:

Grumpy_chap said:

I am not so sure that the latest ICE cars are always as durable.

I can't understand that.

Every since the first internal combustion engine car they have got better, more reliable and able to be driven further and further.

Why all of a sudden have they started becoming less durable?

I guess my comment needs clarification.  The fundamental engine is just as durable - it is the equipment added to achieve improved emissions that seems more problematic in my experience - EGR valves, DPFs and such like.

If you think about it, on virtually every street corner, railway arch and industrial estate there is someone that can fix all these things.

The same can't be said for an EV.
It's pretty much only the dealers and they'll only fix them until they want to sell you a new one!
When the do want to sell a new one, repair costs will outstrip their value and they'll appear rather less durable because of it.

There's a massive hole in the post dealership care of EVs.
 I live on London with thousands of EVs on the road and I can only find a couple of independent EV specialists within 50 miles, I think the rest of the country might be worse off.

I reckon most ICEs today are pretty much at the peak on terms of durability because of all these garages and independent specialist keeping them on the road for a reasonable price.

The future looks like it will lag behind for a good while yet until post dealership care and repair catches up.

WellKnownSid

Goudy said:

Grumpy_chap said:

Goudy said:

Grumpy_chap said:

I am not so sure that the latest ICE cars are always as durable.

I can't understand that.

Every since the first internal combustion engine car they have got better, more reliable and able to be driven further and further.

Why all of a sudden have they started becoming less durable?

I guess my comment needs clarification.  The fundamental engine is just as durable - it is the equipment added to achieve improved emissions that seems more problematic in my experience - EGR valves, DPFs and such like.

If you think about it, on virtually every street corner, railway arch and industrial estate there is someone that can fix all these things.

The same can't be said for an EV.

Yeah, the industry is stupid really.  My son quit his 'modern apprenticeship' run by the IMI in 2023 after a year because he was fed up learning about different types of carburettor and rotor arms in college.  He joined a well known German motor manufacturer's scheme and hasn't looked back.

They update their syllabus every six weeks the pace of change is so quick and the amount of on-board tech is growing so fast.  Colleges teaching 50 year old technology seems kind of pointless.

WellKnownSid

motorguy said:

WellKnownSid said:

Photo of my FIAT Marea Weekend hitting 300k (km) on the clock - sold it about two years later with a shade under 400k - around 245k miles.  Alternator replaced at 340k.  Original clutch but the clutch pedal fell apart at 380k.  

My next door neighbour's E-class diesel was on 600,000km - also on the original clutch.

I'd a FIAT Marea JTD about 10 years ago.  Bought it £70 with 10 months MOT.  I drove that car for 10 months on an 80 mile return commute.  Never missed a beat.  Chassis rot got it though and i'd to sell it as scrap.  Still, was cheap motoring!

The 1.9JTD was a brilliant engine.  As long as you drove it like you stole it.  It had several cam belts in our time with the car but very little else (of course plenty of tyres and brake pads).

In Spain there was no rot - and the Weekend version (the estate) was very practical.

Goudy

WellKnownSid said:

Goudy said:

Grumpy_chap said:

Goudy said:

Grumpy_chap said:

I am not so sure that the latest ICE cars are always as durable.

I can't understand that.

Every since the first internal combustion engine car they have got better, more reliable and able to be driven further and further.

Why all of a sudden have they started becoming less durable?

I guess my comment needs clarification.  The fundamental engine is just as durable - it is the equipment added to achieve improved emissions that seems more problematic in my experience - EGR valves, DPFs and such like.

If you think about it, on virtually every street corner, railway arch and industrial estate there is someone that can fix all these things.

The same can't be said for an EV.

Yeah, the industry is stupid really.  My son quit his 'modern apprenticeship' run by the IMI in 2023 after a year because he was fed up learning about different types of carburettor and rotor arms in college.  He joined a well known German motor manufacturer's scheme and hasn't looked back.

They update their syllabus every six weeks the pace of change is so quick and the amount of on-board tech is growing so fast.  Colleges teaching 50 year old technology seems kind of pointless.

The funny thing is, with the right care an EV wouldn't have much trouble matching these ICE mileage figures or even surpassing them.
There's less moving parts and no emission equipment, ok in might need a battery or two to hit those figures, you would think they will become cheaper and the price of those could possibly balance against all the other servicing costs of an ICE to get to those figures.

Truth might be they just won't be allowed to if it's left only to the dealers.

There's a fine line even with ICE's. they generally come out of the dealer network shortly after the warranty, that is often advised on this form, as it's more cost effective to keep them running that way.
No one wants to pay dealer prices to repair a 10 year old Fiesta.

Who is going to repair a 10 year old EV, where do they go?

fimacdoodle

My old 54 plate audi 1.9tdi hit 250k looking at the last owner mot's. Why did I sell that car at 140k ?  Stupid is me !!
My volvo is on 130k. A mere baby......
I wonder how long the new electric cars will run for ?   

WellKnownSid

fimacdoodle said:

I wonder how long the new electric cars will run for ?   

Tesla reckon their LFP batteries will last for 5,000 full cycles.  Conservatively that’s a million miles, presumably many more possible in the right circumstances.

The issue will be the fact that everything in the car is controlled from the central touchscreen which has a quoted service life of just 5 years…

forgotmyname

2011 MK4 facelift Mondeo bought in 2016 with a mere 294,000 miles on the clock for the princely sum of £630. Decent
spec as well with the touchscreen NAV unit and dual climate etc.  My thinking was the parts would be worth more if it failed
and we broke it for spares.  (Ex-Taxi, only 1 owner so assumed owner/driver)

Need to tow anything or take stuff to the tip, its the perfect vehicle.  It could polish up quite nicely but we just use
it as a van so a quick carwash every now and then is all it gets.

On average we only add 2000 or 3000 miles to it each year but it's still alive and not hit 350k miles yet but it's close.

newsgroupmonkey_

motorguy said:

Genuinely curious as to whos running the highest miles cars in here.

My Golf 1.6TDI is 2014 and has 156K on it.  When i mention the miles i usually get a "oh wow thats high" type of reaction from friends and family. 

I'm sure if i went to sell it something would "take it off my hands" for a nominal sum, but it feels like a wee car that would do 250,000 no problem.

My Uncle had a Golf Diesel estate that made well over 350,000