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  • Gr1pr
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    As I mentioned on page 2 in my reply,  I cannot see what the alleged breach is when reading the POC 

    It should say something like,  no permit,  vehicle not registered with the business,  or whatever 

    It mentions T&Cs , breaching the T&Cs, but is unclear,  meaning how did the driver breach the T&Cs  ?  It doesn't say
  • eliza2811
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    Gr1pr said:
    As I mentioned on page 2 in my reply,  I cannot see what the alleged breach is when reading the POC 

    It should say something like,  no permit,  vehicle not registered with the business,  or whatever 

    It mentions T&Cs , breaching the T&Cs, but is unclear,  meaning how did the driver breach the T&Cs  ?  It doesn't say
    Thank you! 
  • Coupon-mad
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    I thought CEL POC do state the breach which is why I wanted to see a photo of the full POC.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • eliza2811
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    I thought CEL POC do state the breach which is why I wanted to see a photo of the full POC.
    Mines special I guess, but seriously, there's no time limit, no bays, no payment ticket machine, no phone app payment needed, just the ANPR cameras and signs. Not a lot can be said regarding a breach in my opinion 🤷🏼‍♀️


  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 16 July at 10:20PM
    eliza2811 said:
    I thought CEL POC do state the breach which is why I wanted to see a photo of the full POC.
    Mines special I guess, but seriously, there's no time limit, no bays, no payment ticket machine, no phone app payment needed, just the ANPR cameras and signs. Not a lot can be said regarding a breach in my opinion
    Show us the full POC please.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • eliza2811
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    eliza2811 said:
    I thought CEL POC do state the breach which is why I wanted to see a photo of the full POC.
    Mines special I guess, but seriously, there's no time limit, no bays, no payment ticket machine, no phone app payment needed, just the ANPR cameras and signs. Not a lot can be said regarding a breach in my opinion
    Show us the full POC please.
    Normally I would do. But i'm away for 10 days holiday from early tomorrow so I added the Defence to MCOL last night.  Fingers crossed its ok !
    I used the new shorter template and just stated the basics as to what we did. Went there on xxxx, parked up, ate dinner, left. Use car park as actual paying customers.   Added Akande and Chan paragraph in there.   Did not mention that'd we visited before previous year or who driver is by name.    Will await a response I guess.  Thank you for all of your help :-)  It is much appreciated !
  • eliza2811
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    edited 28 July at 8:04PM
    Hello again, i'm back from my holiday and came home to Directions Questionnaire (Small Claims Track) letter from Civil Enforcement.  
    Its dated 21st July 2025.  Very scruffy looking paper form. I mean the typing is blurred for goodness sake !

    They seem to have prefilled in some yes or no questions as 'Yes'.  Such as being referred to Small Claims Mediation Service for example. 

    Would I be right to file it away and wait for something from the Courts called N180 Directions Questionnaire.  I've checked MCOL tonight and no activity since 17/07/2025 when they received the Defence.

    Thanks 


  • Coupon-mad
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    Yes. Await your own N180.

    But also needed: serve up a cold dish of revenge for the aggressive, intimidating trash they are putting you through.

    Read this message and please prepare to join us to do the Public Consultation once we've discussed it in August.

    It's vital the Government hears from Defendants threatened by court. Tell your story. Shoehorn it in somewhere, maybe in answer to why cases go to court (q13 or 14):

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81552148/#Comment_81552148

    Please bookmark the main thread linked in that link.

    Come back in August to take part.


    We need to drown out the 'alternative facts' from the parking industry and their relatives posing as ordinary motorist consumers.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • eliza2811
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    Yes. Await your own N180.

    But also needed: serve up a cold dish of revenge for the aggressive, intimidating trash they are putting you through.

    Read this message and please prepare to join us to do the Public Consultation once we've discussed it in August.

    It's vital the Government hears from Defendants threatened by court. Tell your story. Shoehorn it in somewhere, maybe in answer to why cases go to court (q13 or 14):

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81552148/#Comment_81552148

    Please bookmark the main thread linked in that link.

    Come back in August to take part.


    We need to drown out the 'alternative facts' from the parking industry and their relatives posing as ordinary motorist consumers.
    Thank you @Coupon-mad. I definitely will take part in anything that stops these parking companies threatening people. 
  • eliza2811
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    Still no N180 Directions Questionnaire from the courts. 

    The Defence was received via MCOL, on the 17th July.  I have checked MCOL and its not been posted out as yet.  Is this normal please ?

    Thanks 
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