Degree Apprenticeships Rolls Royce

Thomas_Holding

Does anyone have experience of engineering apprenticeships?

Apprenticeships & School leavers | Rolls-Royce

They look good but I wonder
a) what are the long term earning possibilities post completion can they rise over time
b) are the jobs with these skills very limited to a few places. I don't have anything against Derby but if my child were to study something else and live near us they would have free child care in the future.

LightFlare

a) depends on which one they choose - some of those have more potential than others. 

b) it’s a 4-5 year apprenticeship on very little wage. I dont think having children will either be affordable and on their mind. 

c) places will have huge competition- what subjects is hypothetical child currently doing that would suggest an interest/career in this field ?

kempiejon

I worked in post 16 education and employer apprenticeships were being touted as a good option for those not fancying or suited to a degree. Lots of students were keen as there isn't the debt millstone of a degree. Competition was pretty strong, as places are limited - unlike a degree, there's loads of them.

Thomas_Holding

LightFlare said:

a) depends on which one they choose - some of those have more potential than others. 

b) it’s a 4-5 year apprenticeship on very little wage. I dont think having children will either be affordable and on their mind. 

c) places will have huge competition- what subjects is hypothetical child currently doing that would suggest an interest/career in this field ?

b) About childcare I was thinking post apprenticeship when they have a full time job. I think £20k straight out of school is good wage if it leads to a useful degree (is the degree useful of course) is the question.
Apprenticeships & School leavers | Rolls-Royce
Year 4 year is £30k that is not a bad salary at 22 

c) they are considering what A levels to study but they are thinking DT, Maths and Physics.

gt568

We have thousands of applicant for the handful of degree apprenticeships my company offers.  And its a great scheme.

HouseMartin567

Providing it’s a subject said applicant is interested in then it sounds like a great deal.
Option 1 - do the degree off own back at university of choice and incur ~£30-50k of debt (depending on whether living at home or not)
Option 2 - do the apprenticeship degree scheme and rather than incur debt, earn ~£100k (minus deductions) over the 4 years whilst gaining work experience

I know it’s not quite as simplistic as the above, but something to consider.

Thomas_Holding

HouseMartin567 said:

Providing it’s a subject said applicant is interested in then it sounds like a great deal.
Option 1 - do the degree off own back at university of choice and incur ~£30-50k of debt (depending on whether living at home or not)
Option 2 - do the apprenticeship degree scheme and rather than incur debt, earn ~£100k (minus deductions) over the 4 years whilst gaining work experience

I know it’s not quite as simplistic as the above, but something to consider.

I agree I just wonder what the long term prospects are.
Would they be better off studying medicine at university in the long term.

strawb_shortcake

Thomas_Holding said:

HouseMartin567 said:

Providing it’s a subject said applicant is interested in then it sounds like a great deal.
Option 1 - do the degree off own back at university of choice and incur ~£30-50k of debt (depending on whether living at home or not)
Option 2 - do the apprenticeship degree scheme and rather than incur debt, earn ~£100k (minus deductions) over the 4 years whilst gaining work experience

I know it’s not quite as simplistic as the above, but something to consider.

I agree I just wonder what the long term prospects are.
Would they be better off studying medicine at university in the long term.

There's a big difference between jobs at Rolls Royce and medicine. What does your child actually want to do? Your child may meet someone and move away, so free child care is off the table from you anyway.

Rolls Royce would open up lots of opportunities, primarily in the world of defence, some jobs may be for UK nationals only, and nuclear jobs may be more limited in locations available to work. There would be scope to gain experience and move to other similar companies and even abroad. For someone particularly driven, it wouldn't be unfeasible for them to work their way up into upper management. 

Savvy_Sue

I realised some time ago, if I wanted any child of mine to pick a particular option, it was best if I kept out of it. 

And if I'd suggested that I'd offer free childcare if they lived locally, their laughter would have been heard down the street. 

They should choose for themselves. If this apprenticeship is what your child wants to do, more than any other option, it's a good choice. If they'd rather get a student loan and choose a different subject, that's a better choice. But it has to be their choice.

Clearly, I'm a poor example. The only one likely to give me grandchildren studied at the local uni, but now lives abroad with the girl he met and fell in love with there.

Although I'm inspired by the memory of former neighbours who spent every other week away from home, on grandparent duties ... If they're not local, you can go to them, if so invited. It's tempting...

Thomas_Holding

annabanana82 said:

Thomas_Holding said:

HouseMartin567 said:

Providing it’s a subject said applicant is interested in then it sounds like a great deal.
Option 1 - do the degree off own back at university of choice and incur ~£30-50k of debt (depending on whether living at home or not)
Option 2 - do the apprenticeship degree scheme and rather than incur debt, earn ~£100k (minus deductions) over the 4 years whilst gaining work experience

I know it’s not quite as simplistic as the above, but something to consider.

I agree I just wonder what the long term prospects are.
Would they be better off studying medicine at university in the long term.

There's a big difference between jobs at Rolls Royce and medicine. What does your child actually want to do? Your child may meet someone and move away, so free child care is off the table from you anyway.

Rolls Royce would open up lots of opportunities, primarily in the world of defence, some jobs may be for UK nationals only, and nuclear jobs may be more limited in locations available to work. There would be scope to gain experience and move to other similar companies and even abroad. For someone particularly driven, it wouldn't be unfeasible for them to work their way up into upper management. 

They are considering their options.  Good point about UK nationals only.

Thomas_Holding

Savvy_Sue said:

I realised some time ago, if I wanted any child of mine to pick a particular option, it was best if I kept out of it. 

And if I'd suggested that I'd offer free childcare if they lived locally, their laughter would have been heard down the street. 

They should choose for themselves. If this apprenticeship is what your child wants to do, more than any other option, it's a good choice. If they'd rather get a student loan and choose a different subject, that's a better choice. But it has to be their choice.

Clearly, I'm a poor example. The only one likely to give me grandchildren studied at the local uni, but now lives abroad with the girl he met and fell in love with there.

Although I'm inspired by the memory of former neighbours who spent every other week away from home, on grandparent duties ... If they're not local, you can go to them, if so invited. It's tempting...

I want them to make the decision just trying to inform them. I certainly would have chosen differently if I had known all the facts (long story).