Job offer via company - Advice on salary negotiations

Phoenix72

Maybe, just maybe, you are overestimating what you bring to the table. The employers offering £30k+ haven't taken you on so you need to get in somewhere. As said, in terms of cash in hand, the difference is not as much as it sounds.

Wonka_2

How about looking at this differently ? 

If you’ve hit the limit of what they’ll pay at recruitment stage how about gambling on your future worth ? If you’re confident you can deliver then ask about an increase to xx in 6 months if you’ve delivered yy

This might allow you to understand the salary cycle and opportunity to influence this

Given your questions I’m assuming this is a non-commercial/negotiating role - if it is then I’d be more concerned  

Marcon

Wonka_2 said:

How about looking at this differently ? 

If you’ve hit the limit of what they’ll pay at recruitment stage how about gambling on your future worth ? If you’re confident you can deliver then ask about an increase to xx in 6 months if you’ve delivered yy

This might allow you to understand the salary cycle and opportunity to influence this

Given your questions I’m assuming this is a non-commercial/negotiating role - if it is then I’d be more concerned  

The idea is very sound, but the chances of OP being able to specify (never mind meet!) the deliverables could be tricky, depending on the type of role this is.

Charlotte_Ca

Wonka_2 said:

How about looking at this differently ? 

If you’ve hit the limit of what they’ll pay at recruitment stage how about gambling on your future worth ? If you’re confident you can deliver then ask about an increase to xx in 6 months if you’ve delivered yy

This might allow you to understand the salary cycle and opportunity to influence this

Given your questions I’m assuming this is a non-commercial/negotiating role - if it is then I’d be more concerned  

I think if I was on a more managerial role I could do that, but this is more like a mid-level job so I wouldn't feel confident doing this. 

Elliott.T123

Charlotte_Ca said:

Marcon said:

Charlotte_Ca said:

I think by putting down my thoughts and reading all the comments maybe the best I could do if I wanted to negotiate the salary would be to ask £28K which is the maximum they are offering for this role.

I'm just wondering.... could they be offering their employees more and because I'm a newbie they want to pay me less?

Probably - pretty standard approach - but that won't improve your negotiating position (or negotiating skills). Unless someone actually offers you a job paying more than this one, then for the moment this is going to be the best you can get.

That makes me feel sad because I feel disadvantaged on salary negotiations being unemployed and not being able to back down out of need for a job.... I mean if didn't like the job I would have said no, but the thing is that I like the job and the company.

It's like if ever anything happens and you cannot work then when you go back to the market it's like you start from zero... and it's like where have all these years that I've worked gone? Do they not count anymore?  

You aren't disadvantaged by being unemployed, I am sure you mentioned somewhere this was a big multi-national business. Chances are someone a few levels above your manager (if you take the role) has set the budget for this role and that's all there is to it.

As a general rule the bigger the company the less flexibility on salary brackets. 

Also the more senior you go the more flexibility there is but at the 27k range I wouldn't expect any flex so you may be able to get £28k but anything above is very unlikely. They will just say there is our offer take it or leave it.

Hoenir

Besides the salary. How do the benefits stack up. Holiday leave, bonuses, sick leave, employers pension scheme contributions etc etc. Large employers cost the whole package. When benchmarking to market rates of pay. 

sheramber

Both my sons have good jobs after providing services to the company on a voluntary basis and then being offered  full time employment.

You have the chance to prove your worth and get paid for it. 

My DIL took a lower salary when changing jobs but is reaping the benefits now. 

Grumpy_chap

I assume by now the OP has accepted the job offer, negotiated and accepted a revised offer (or the same offer if unchanged), or negotiated and had the offer withdrawn.
Perhaps the OP will update with the outcome?

Exodi

Charlotte_Ca said:

Marcon said:

Charlotte_Ca said:

I think by putting down my thoughts and reading all the comments maybe the best I could do if I wanted to negotiate the salary would be to ask £28K which is the maximum they are offering for this role.

I'm just wondering.... could they be offering their employees more and because I'm a newbie they want to pay me less?

Probably - pretty standard approach - but that won't improve your negotiating position (or negotiating skills). Unless someone actually offers you a job paying more than this one, then for the moment this is going to be the best you can get.

That makes me feel sad because I feel disadvantaged on salary negotiations being unemployed and not being able to back down out of need for a job.... I mean if didn't like the job I would have said no, but the thing is that I like the job and the company.

It's like if ever anything happens and you cannot work then when you go back to the market it's like you start from zero... and it's like where have all these years that I've worked gone? Do they not count anymore?  

I really think you're making a mountain out of a molehill with this.

There's nothing stopping you from taking the job (so you're no longer unemployed and living off savings and benefits) and continuing your search for a job paying £30k. As you mentioned, it's been 6 months, this decision really is a no-brainer. I'd imagine £27.5k/£28k is more than you're earning a month currently.

Emmia said:

I'd say your negotiating position is weak, as you're unemployed and so can't "stay with your current employer" if they don't offer what you're seeking. 

I'd take the job, but keep looking - if you're genuinely worth £30k+ someone else will offer it, but they're more likely to do so if you're employed already.

Totally agree and as a Sales Director I personally wouldn't offer more money in that situation unless the post had been vacant for a long time.

The first thing I'd ask if this was posed to me is if the OP can get a job paying £30k+ with a competitor, why don't they?

What does the whole package look like? A big employer pension contribution can outweigh a lower salary.

Charlotte_Ca

So, just for an update I just accepted what they offered me and didn't negotiate further. The benefits package looks decent with bonuses etc, but in the instance of bonuses these are paid based on company performance. So, they are not standard. 

The pension is better than my last company, but there are other competitors in the same industry that offer more.