Leaving Current Job? Notice Period

extrareach

I have a job, I am still in my probation period (six months) i have been there 7 weeks.

The company expects me to carry out duties which should be clearly defined by policies and procedures (Healthcare setting).

I have requested sight of these and to date they have not been provided and my requests are skirted around. I suspect they are not in place.

I wish to leave asap as I do not wish to be dragged into a heap of mess if something goes wrong, and a CQC inspection is imminent.

My probation period says no notice on their part but I must give 3 months and repay training. This is statutory training.

I really wish to leave with immediate effect. is this possible?

All help greatly received.

TIA

Brie

You could simply leave on the basis that they haven't fulfilled their part of the T&Cs.  But whether this would cause a stink is another matter.

Better to talk to your manager and state clearly that without sight of the policies etc you can't know if you are doing your job properly or if you are being set up for a fail.  And that you would be afraid if you admitted to anything about the policies not being in place when the inspection happens.  

Appear contrite, suggest there could be a way to repay your training if you are given time but say you feel you need to leave asap.  

General_Grant

extrareach said:

I have a job, I am still in my probation period (six months) i have been there 7 weeks.

The company expects me to carry out duties which should be clearly defined by policies and procedures (Healthcare setting).

I have requested sight of these and to date they have not been provided and my requests are skirted around. I suspect they are not in place.

I wish to leave asap as I do not wish to be dragged into a heap of mess if something goes wrong, and a CQC inspection is imminent.

My probation period says no notice on their part but I must give 3 months and repay training. This is statutory training.

I really wish to leave with immediate effect. is this possible?

All help greatly received.

TIA

As you have been there over a month, they would have to give you at least one week's notice.  (I know this is not the same as that which it seems they could require from you.)

Have you actually signed a document saying you would repay training costs?

extrareach

General_Grant said:

extrareach said:

I have a job, I am still in my probation period (six months) i have been there 7 weeks.

The company expects me to carry out duties which should be clearly defined by policies and procedures (Healthcare setting).

I have requested sight of these and to date they have not been provided and my requests are skirted around. I suspect they are not in place.

I wish to leave asap as I do not wish to be dragged into a heap of mess if something goes wrong, and a CQC inspection is imminent.

My probation period says no notice on their part but I must give 3 months and repay training. This is statutory training.

I really wish to leave with immediate effect. is this possible?

All help greatly received.

TIA

As you have been there over a month, they would have to give you at least one week's notice.  (I know this is not the same as that which it seems they could require from you.)

Have you actually signed a document saying you would repay training costs?

I have the document I havent signed it. Also there appears to be an error with my wages?????

kimwp

How do you feel about refusing to do.the work until the policies and procedures are produced? Then you wouldn't get in trouble with the cqc and you wouldn't be leaving so wouldn't have to pay back training costs. You'd have to be pretty certain you were in the right to refuse though ie that these policies and procedures should exist.

extrareach

kimwp said:

How do you feel about refusing to do.the work until the policies and procedures are produced? Then you wouldn't get in trouble with the cqc and you wouldn't be leaving so wouldn't have to pay back training costs. You'd have to be pretty certain you were in the right to refuse though ie that these policies and procedures should exist.

I did point blank refuse to carry out one duty without the policy and procedure still not materialised? I'm guessing they don't exist. 

General_Grant

kimwp said:

How do you feel about refusing to do.the work until the policies and procedures are produced? Then you wouldn't get in trouble with the cqc and you wouldn't be leaving so wouldn't have to pay back training costs. You'd have to be pretty certain you were in the right to refuse though ie that these policies and procedures should exist.

Are the procedures which you believe should apply standard ones which everyone should be working to.  
What area of CQC inspection do these fall into?   Safety or some other area(s)?

extrareach

General_Grant said:

kimwp said:

How do you feel about refusing to do.the work until the policies and procedures are produced? Then you wouldn't get in trouble with the cqc and you wouldn't be leaving so wouldn't have to pay back training costs. You'd have to be pretty certain you were in the right to refuse though ie that these policies and procedures should exist.

Are the procedures which you believe should apply standard ones which everyone should be working to.  
What area of CQC inspection do these fall into?   Safety or some other area(s)?

All areas there are none!

General_Grant

extrareach said:

General_Grant said:

kimwp said:

How do you feel about refusing to do.the work until the policies and procedures are produced? Then you wouldn't get in trouble with the cqc and you wouldn't be leaving so wouldn't have to pay back training costs. You'd have to be pretty certain you were in the right to refuse though ie that these policies and procedures should exist.

Are the procedures which you believe should apply standard ones which everyone should be working to.  
What area of CQC inspection do these fall into?   Safety or some other area(s)?

All areas there are none!

Safe, Effective, Caring, Responsive, Well-Led are the areas.
Which policies and procedures are you personally expecting to be given?

Has the CQC ever inspected the organisation?

Royoftherovers2024

Speak to ACAS for advice, they will be able to advise from a legal point of view.

Get a GP fit note with immediate effect and hand this in to your employer, serve your notice on the sick.

Savvy_Sue

Royoftherovers2024 said:

Speak to ACAS for advice, they will be able to advise from a legal point of view.

Get a GP fit note with immediate effect and hand this in to your employer, serve your notice on the sick.

ACAS may not be much help, and unless the OP is actually sick, how are they going to get a Fit Note from the GP? 

Also, serving notice while off sick won't get the OP off the hook for the training costs, if the agreement is valid. Even if it is NOT valid, getting their final payments without the training costs being deducted may be unlikely, especially as the OP believes they haven't been paid correctly anyway. 

OP, are you in a union? (My heart always sinks when someone working in healthcare or any frontline service says they are not.) They would be the best people to support you in this, I feel, if the breaches are as bad as you say. 

I'm fairly sure that if you continue to refuse to carry out your duties, then the employer may well dismiss you, which could be without notice. Even if that is because you haven't been given the policies and procedures you believe should be in place, and even if those P&P do not in fact exist, you may well be seen as too much like hard work.