Was my increased salary reasonable?

222Johnny222

I have been fortunate to apply and get a promotion at work with a 20% pay rise.
I was and am happy with this.
It has though been brought to my attention that the person I have replaced was on nearly £20,000 more than my new package for an identical job with similar experience.
This is mildly irritating at worst but curious as to how fair HR/ the company are being?

DullGreyGuy

222Johnny222 said:

I have been fortunate to apply and get a promotion at work with a 20% pay rise.
I was and am happy with this.
It has though been brought to my attention that the person I have replaced was on nearly £20,000 more than my new package for an identical job with similar experience.
This is mildly irritating at worst but curious as to how fair HR/ the company are being?

In a former team I worked in the salary of Senior Executives ranged from £50,000 to £120,000 and the two managers were around the top end of the scale. On paper they were all the same grade doing the same job but the reality was that the big high priority pieces of work went to those at the top of the pay scale and the basic more run of the mill stuff went to those at the bottom. 

Generally, you gain experience, promotions, training by staying with a company, you get pay rises by switching companies. When I was in the above team I wasnt a senior and had come into the team from an operations role so initially was on £24,000 and yet at times was asked to take on a piece of work from someone earning more than 3 times my wage. Each year I got the maximum % pay rise allowed but when applied to a relatively low base meant my salary was always low. 

Moved company after a few years, more than doubled my salary and the hiring manager said afterwards that we could discuss salaries if I wanted to as he feared I could demand more money elsewhere with my experience so was a flight risk. 

As a promotion you'd expect to be paid less than someone who had experience in the role. You'll have experience next time you move, unless it's upwards, and so will be in a better position to argue for more monies. 

222Johnny222

DullGreyGuy said:

222Johnny222 said:

I have been fortunate to apply and get a promotion at work with a 20% pay rise.
I was and am happy with this.
It has though been brought to my attention that the person I have replaced was on nearly £20,000 more than my new package for an identical job with similar experience.
This is mildly irritating at worst but curious as to how fair HR/ the company are being?

In a former team I worked in the salary of Senior Executives ranged from £50,000 to £120,000 and the two managers were around the top end of the scale. On paper they were all the same grade doing the same job but the reality was that the big high priority pieces of work went to those at the top of the pay scale and the basic more run of the mill stuff went to those at the bottom. 

Generally, you gain experience, promotions, training by staying with a company, you get pay rises by switching companies. When I was in the above team I wasnt a senior and had come into the team from an operations role so initially was on £24,000 and yet at times was asked to take on a piece of work from someone earning more than 3 times my wage. Each year I got the maximum % pay rise allowed but when applied to a relatively low base meant my salary was always low. 

Moved company after a few years, more than doubled my salary and the hiring manager said afterwards that we could discuss salaries if I wanted to as he feared I could demand more money elsewhere with my experience so was a flight risk. 

As a promotion you'd expect to be paid less than someone who had experience in the role. You'll have experience next time you move, unless it's upwards, and so will be in a better position to argue for more monies. 

Thank you for that measured and heartening response.

Marcon

222Johnny222 said:

I have been fortunate to apply and get a promotion at work with a 20% pay rise.
I was and am happy with this.
It has though been brought to my attention that the person I have replaced was on nearly £20,000 more than my new package for an identical job with similar experience.
This is mildly irritating at worst but curious as to how fair HR/ the company are being?

Why and by whom? Are you sure it's correct and not just being done to wind you up?

If you're happy with what you've got - and a 20% pay rise is a pretty good outcome - then 'fairness' doesn't really come into it. You have no idea what the person you replaced actually brought to the table, or whether they were paid extra to try and entice them to stay, or the company was in a stronger position etc etc.

222Johnny222 said:

As a promotion you'd expect to be paid less than someone who had experience in the role. You'll have experience next time you move, unless it's upwards, and so will be in a better position to argue for more monies. 

^^^Just this - do a really great job and you are in a strong position to negotiate next time salary reviews come around.

penners324

Give the role 6 months then think about renegotiating.

Can you get a similar role at another company on £20k more? 

Undervalued

222Johnny222 said:

I have been fortunate to apply and get a promotion at work with a 20% pay rise.
I was and am happy with this.
It has though been brought to my attention that the person I have replaced was on nearly £20,000 more than my new package for an identical job with similar experience.
This is mildly irritating at worst but curious as to how fair HR/ the company are being?

They don't have to behave fairly (however you judge that), they only have to behave lawfully. Which they have!

Elliott.T123

DullGreyGuy said:

222Johnny222 said:

I have been fortunate to apply and get a promotion at work with a 20% pay rise.
I was and am happy with this.
It has though been brought to my attention that the person I have replaced was on nearly £20,000 more than my new package for an identical job with similar experience.
This is mildly irritating at worst but curious as to how fair HR/ the company are being?

In a former team I worked in the salary of Senior Executives ranged from £50,000 to £120,000 and the two managers were around the top end of the scale. On paper they were all the same grade doing the same job but the reality was that the big high priority pieces of work went to those at the top of the pay scale and the basic more run of the mill stuff went to those at the bottom. 

Generally, you gain experience, promotions, training by staying with a company, you get pay rises by switching companies. When I was in the above team I wasnt a senior and had come into the team from an operations role so initially was on £24,000 and yet at times was asked to take on a piece of work from someone earning more than 3 times my wage. Each year I got the maximum % pay rise allowed but when applied to a relatively low base meant my salary was always low. 

Moved company after a few years, more than doubled my salary and the hiring manager said afterwards that we could discuss salaries if I wanted to as he feared I could demand more money elsewhere with my experience so was a flight risk. 

As a promotion you'd expect to be paid less than someone who had experience in the role. You'll have experience next time you move, unless it's upwards, and so will be in a better position to argue for more monies. 

This is 100% accurate, when someone moves jobs they generally look for a minimum £5k pay rise (slightly different if you earn under £25k) but 25-70k a 5k pay rise is standard, sometimes £10k.

If you move jobs every 4-6 years you can jump up fairly fast, if you stay where you are then you may get % increases every year and the odd promotion with a bit of a bump, but over the course of a career you will finish lower.