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Mobile Engineers who are PAYE can Claim for Food at Work

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  • jefaz07
    jefaz07 Posts: 621 Forumite
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    edited 21 March 2024 at 7:19PM
    The starting point is the relevant tax legislation which requires expenditure to be wholly, exclusively and necessarily incurred in the performance of the duties of the employment.
    So, on the face of it, expenditure on food is not an allowable expense for an any employee.

    As a long time 'commercial traveller' I must have  claimed for lunch well over two thousand times. This would be when on my own, and nowhere near my home or office.
    There was no specific limit, only to be sensible.
    VAT receipt was needed to claim back the expense from the company. No tax implications as was always classed as wholly, necessary etc 
    I worked for several companies and this was the same with all of them. 
    My company don’t reimburse. Only for evening meal and mileage. So I claim through self assessment to get the relief. 
  • jefaz07
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    BoGoF said:
    jefaz07 said:
    £10 per day if working over 10 hours. £5 a day if less (but over 5 hours)  Those figures don’t require receipts. 
    I claim these on my tax return. Only if it hasn’t been reimbursed by my company. 
    Where are you getting these figures?

    These are the amounts an employer can reimburse an employee tax free but still need to have some checking system in place to ensure the expenditure actually incurred.

    It does not allow the employee to claim tax relief on these and any amounts should be based on actual, vouched expenses - if the criteria is met.
    Our company doesn’t pay these to us. They direct us to claim it as an allowable expense on a tax return. Which I do annually. 
  • BoGoF
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    jefaz07 said:
    BoGoF said:
    jefaz07 said:
    £10 per day if working over 10 hours. £5 a day if less (but over 5 hours)  Those figures don’t require receipts. 
    I claim these on my tax return. Only if it hasn’t been reimbursed by my company. 
    Where are you getting these figures?

    These are the amounts an employer can reimburse an employee tax free but still need to have some checking system in place to ensure the expenditure actually incurred.

    It does not allow the employee to claim tax relief on these and any amounts should be based on actual, vouched expenses - if the criteria is met.
    Our company doesn’t pay these to us. They direct us to claim it as an allowable expense on a tax return. Which I do annually. 
    Well your company is wrong on the flat rate/no receipts point. You better hope you don't get an enquiry into your return.
  • jefaz07
    jefaz07 Posts: 621 Forumite
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    BoGoF said:
    jefaz07 said:
    BoGoF said:
    jefaz07 said:
    £10 per day if working over 10 hours. £5 a day if less (but over 5 hours)  Those figures don’t require receipts. 
    I claim these on my tax return. Only if it hasn’t been reimbursed by my company. 
    Where are you getting these figures?

    These are the amounts an employer can reimburse an employee tax free but still need to have some checking system in place to ensure the expenditure actually incurred.

    It does not allow the employee to claim tax relief on these and any amounts should be based on actual, vouched expenses - if the criteria is met.
    Our company doesn’t pay these to us. They direct us to claim it as an allowable expense on a tax return. Which I do annually. 
    Well your company is wrong on the flat rate/no receipts point. You better hope you don't get an enquiry into your return.
    I keep them anyway. And I have a big file of expenses I’ve incurred. £5 doesn’t get you far now, so it’s more than that generally. 
  • Albermarle
    Albermarle Posts: 28,012 Forumite
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    BoGoF said:
    jefaz07 said:
    BoGoF said:
    jefaz07 said:
    £10 per day if working over 10 hours. £5 a day if less (but over 5 hours)  Those figures don’t require receipts. 
    I claim these on my tax return. Only if it hasn’t been reimbursed by my company. 
    Where are you getting these figures?

    These are the amounts an employer can reimburse an employee tax free but still need to have some checking system in place to ensure the expenditure actually incurred.

    It does not allow the employee to claim tax relief on these and any amounts should be based on actual, vouched expenses - if the criteria is met.
    Our company doesn’t pay these to us. They direct us to claim it as an allowable expense on a tax return. Which I do annually. 
    Well your company is wrong on the flat rate/no receipts point. You better hope you don't get an enquiry into your return.
    I have some vague memory that if it was not possible to get a receipt ( roadside caff for example) you could claim £5 a day for subsistence.
    At one point/one company I was able to claim a flat rate for overnight accommodation. So if you stayed with a friend/family you could claim £20 ( or whatever it was ) . It saved the employer money on hotel bills.
    Maybe some different interpreting of the rules was going on.
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