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Any Solar only & EV users out there? Octopus questions

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  • Spies
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    edited 15 February 2024 at 12:53PM
    Flux is horrible for No Home Battery low milage EV drivers, it would have cost me another £100 so far year alone vs Agile/Tracker. 

    Edited for accuracy
    4.29kWp Solar system, 45/55 South/West split in cloudy rainy Cumbria. 
  • Jonboy1889
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    edited 15 February 2024 at 12:57PM
    I've been on Flux since May. No EV or battery. It's so far paid for a year's worth of petrol. Just throwing that out there..
    I probably would do too if I had such a big system 😂 you would also make 80% of that saving with Agile Fixed outgoing. but EV changes the story a lot for Flux.

    ignoring the dodgy standing charge numbers above- would need to export 1.1k MW in the last 30 days for Flux to be better 
  • Petriix
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    edited 16 February 2024 at 12:09AM
    Surely the default in this situation is Intelligent Octopus Go for imports and Outgoing Octopus for exports?
    Flux is way more expensive for EV charging and Agile too unpredictable with significant risk of very high prices. Sure, you *might* save a bit but it's a gamble. 

    Intelligent at 7.5p per kWh overnight with some load shifting of domestic usage is a great foundation for most of your usage and 15p per kWh exports makes it better not to consume your own solar generation unless necessary to avoid peak imports. 
  • Jonboy1889
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    edited 16 February 2024 at 9:17AM
    Petriix said:
    Surely the default in this situation is Intelligent Octopus Go for imports and Outgoing Octopus for exports?
    Flux is way more expensive for EV charging and Agile too unpredictable with significant risk of very high prices. Sure, you *might* save a bit but it's a gamble. 

    Intelligent at 7.5p per kWh overnight with some load shifting of domestic usage is a great foundation for most of your usage and 15p per kWh exports makes it better not to consume your own solar generation unless necessary to avoid peak imports. 
    You would think so, but Octopus Go is not great for peak rates, significantly more expensive in fact. 

    If you work from home, you will quickly wipe out that nighttime benefit of Go (if you’re not using your EV loads), esp in the winter- when it’s most windy so agile likely to be a good option.

    It’s a gamble if it’s a super cold snap- but if it is you just move off. But it’s not even a gamble taking Go’s daytime rates, it’s almost a guaranteed loss on every KW used in the daytime (assuming no battery).

    Intelligent Go is c30p daytime rate- this is a lot higher than the c18p it’s been outside peak for agile the last few months. And my average nighttime EV charging rate has been <1p per KW since mid November.

    so unless your EV usage is high, you will likely lose out on Go over the winter, altho of course it is weather dependent!


    And it depends on personal usage of course! If your EV usage is quite low you can just wait for the cheap nights and charge then with agile. Hence why this year we have paid £50 less for electricity than last year (no EV) for the same period. Looks like it’s going to keep getting more stormy in the winter too!

    it you have a battery it’s all different- intelligent Go is a great option in that case


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