Right Job Wrong Industry

theoretica

There seem two parts to this - one is you don't feel satisfied with your current job, the other is that you have your eye set on a particular alternative - what happens if you remove that constraint and open up your field of exploration?

Where do you need the job to be - could you move for it?

What is the least you can earn?  Could you take a temporary job and risk what happens when it ends? 

Then discounting jobs you absolutely aren't qualified for (brain surgeon), what jobs are being advertised?

Marcon

Mark_Glasses said:

@Marcon what does asking a question about lunch have to do with it?

Your other questions provide a lot of useful background/information about you, as they do with most people using this forum.

Mark_Glasses

@Archerychick my impression of agencies is that unless you're willing to be put forward for a role they have at that point in time they don't want to know you. I've had numerous conversations with agencies about what I'm looking for which conclude with them saying they'll be in touch if they have any suitable roles but that's the last I'll hear of them. Or they send me another role in my industry and we have the same conversation again. 

There's an agency who are specialists in my occupation and I've had job interviews via them. I had a lengthy conversation with one of them stating my desire to move industries and that conversation ended with them suggesting a job with a direct competitor of the company I was working for at the time.

I also saw a recruitment consultant who I'm connected to on LinkedIn post a job I was interested in a few months ago. I sent them a message saying I was interested and they just ignored it.

@theoretica the first graduate job I applied for looked like the perfect job for me. I got to the final stage but didn't get the job. I then started an application with PwC but it looked so boring in comparison so didn't finish it. I did eventually apply for a few more jobs and had a couple of interviews with no success. A couple of years had passed by this point and that's where I opened up my field of exploration.

It only took a few weeks after that point for me to get offered a job. The only good thing about the job though was giving me experience in my field of work. I've had years of said experience now but not much progression. The general consensus is that I'm really good at my area of expertise but need to be more entrepreneurial to progress to the next level.

When I think back to that first graduate interview I had so many business ideas. I'm highly opinionated about the things that interest me but if something doesn't interest me then I couldn't care less. I have zero interest in the industry I'm in and I don't understand it either. I get the basic concept but 99% of the jobs in it seem pointless as do 99% of the companies.

There is an industry which is my preference but I'm open to other industries. I'm also mindful that I've ended up here by taking any old rubbish so want to make sure I at least have a vague interest. 

Again when I had that graduate interview I was speaking to a stranger on the train about it afterwards and they said I get full marks for enthusiasm. It's pretty obvious I'm not suited to the industry I work in.

The job needs to be in London but that shouldn't be a problem because it's usually someone having to move from wherever they come from to London.

I'm in one of the lower paying industries for my profession so should be able to achieve at least an equivalent salary in another industry.

I've applied for 4 jobs so far this year but looked on LinkedIn last night and couldn't see any more.

@Marcon what useful information do you have?

Elliott.T123

Mark_Glasses said:

@Archerychick my impression of agencies is that unless you're willing to be put forward for a role they have at that point in time they don't want to know you. I've had numerous conversations with agencies about what I'm looking for which conclude with them saying they'll be in touch if they have any suitable roles but that's the last I'll hear of them. Or they send me another role in my industry and we have the same conversation again. 

There's an agency who are specialists in my occupation and I've had job interviews via them. I had a lengthy conversation with one of them stating my desire to move industries and that conversation ended with them suggesting a job with a direct competitor of the company I was working for at the time.

I also saw a recruitment consultant who I'm connected to on LinkedIn post a job I was interested in a few months ago. I sent them a message saying I was interested and they just ignored it.

Mark, speaking as a recruitment consultant the problem you have is that we have to find exactly what the client asks us to fine (which 99% of the time is an exact replacement from a direct competitor).

I have had lots of examples where I have send someone for a job who has been rejected instantly and then 2 months later I find out the company have hired someone almost exactly the same.

The reason is that a company will hire someone directly that is on paper a less good match than they will via a recruitment consultant. Because of that agencies will often only send people who are spot on.

Now, I am not saying that means they cant help you, a good agency will work with you, come up with a list of companies that are of interest and proactively approach them, but it is harder to use recruiters when moving industry.

Mark_Glasses

@Elliott.T123 I have been put forward for jobs in other industries by agencies before but it's been via them contacting me about it. That's what happened with the job interview I mentioned in my first post that made me realise I was in the wrong industry.

I did get contacted be an agency about a job in an industry I do find interesting the other week. I said I was interested but then was asked about my experience in said industry and I knew it was curtains. I didn't say I had no experience, I said my expertise is my occupation that can be applied to any industry and that I have more interest in this industry than the one I'm in.