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Mortgage shortfall since 2014

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  • Hi Sourcrates, 
     So if the original owner of the debt sold it to collection agent rather than assign it ,then the collector becomes the owner and can use court  action on the debtor within the 12 years?
  • fatbelly
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    £5000 is a decent offer. Keep making it every few months
  • sourcrates
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    Hi Sourcrates, 
     So if the original owner of the debt sold it to collection agent rather than assign it ,then the collector becomes the owner and can use court  action on the debtor within the 12 years?
    Yes, if you sell something, it changes ownership.

    There are two types of assignment -
    • Legal Assignment
    • Equitable Assignment
    Legal Assignment gives the assignee powers to enforce the debt, unlike an Equitable Assignment where the purchasing party is unable to take enforcement action in their own right.

    Under an Equitable Assignment, only the amount owed is assigned, and not the original creditor’s rights and responsibilities.

    If the assignment letter refers to "our client" then it will be an equitable assignment, otherwise take it to be a legal assignment.
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  • OMG!!! This is an eye opening platform.Thanks so much Sourcrates for that reply. 
  • Anyone know where to find old CCJ that has lapsed 6years and  taken off Register of judgement?
  • fatbelly
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    edited 1 December 2023 at 4:41PM
    Anyone know where to find old CCJ that has lapsed 6years and  taken off Register of judgement?
    You would have to go to the issuing court

    Even there their records may not go back far enough

    Ithought you said earlier that there was no ccj on this
  • Yes, i said no ccj because i am not 100% sure as i didn't  get any mail and didn't check my credit report then. i only want to see if i can find out somewhere. but not necessarily a worry, just being inquisitive , its been a long while.
  • fatbelly
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    I think if there had been a ccj, whoever was writing to you would have mentioned it.

    Assume there isn't.
  • fatbelly
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    You've made what I consider to be a generous offer for one of these debts, and been turned down

    Have you ever asked for a breakdown of how they arrived at the alleged figure (I note that they just added another sum)?


    This factsheet is useful and links to a standard letter to ask for the breakdown

    https://www.nationaldebtline.org/fact-sheet-library/mortgage-shortfalls-ew/
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