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  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,627 Ambassador
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    I have now had two texts messages asking if I could call them or access their online portal. Wrongly or rightly, I have decided I will wait until they give me proof of said debt, but without contacting them. Again, thank you for the input!
    They will only provide proof "on demand", when you ask for it, you can ignore texts/emails/calls etc, but if they should write to you asking for payment, then send the "provit letter".

    Nothing else at this stage, don`t otherwise engage with them, a "provit letter" is specifically worded so as not to acknowledge the debt.
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  • fatbelly
    fatbelly Posts: 23,014 Forumite
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    edited 20 November 2023 at 4:29PM
    Yep. You are right to ignore text messages.

    When you get a letter actually asking for payment, that is the time to ask them to prove it
  • I received a letter out of the blue yesterday too from Intrum for an old Lloyds Bank debt which went statute barred 10 years ago. I really can't believe I'm receiving this letter especially considering I sent them the prove-it letter many years ago when they were called 1st Credit. The last correspondence I had from them was in 2015!
  • fatbelly
    fatbelly Posts: 23,014 Forumite
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    I received a letter out of the blue yesterday too from Intrum for an old Lloyds Bank debt which went statute barred 10 years ago. I really can't believe I'm receiving this letter especially considering I sent them the prove-it letter many years ago when they were called 1st Credit. The last correspondence I had from them was in 2015!
    Are they actually asking for payment or is it info-only?
  • fatbelly said:
    I received a letter out of the blue yesterday too from Intrum for an old Lloyds Bank debt which went statute barred 10 years ago. I really can't believe I'm receiving this letter especially considering I sent them the prove-it letter many years ago when they were called 1st Credit. The last correspondence I had from them was in 2015!
    Are they actually asking for payment or is it info-only?
    Asking for payment. Included was a "Resolvecall" letter saying they would visit if I don't pay or call them. Which I'm not.
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,627 Ambassador
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    fatbelly said:
    I received a letter out of the blue yesterday too from Intrum for an old Lloyds Bank debt which went statute barred 10 years ago. I really can't believe I'm receiving this letter especially considering I sent them the prove-it letter many years ago when they were called 1st Credit. The last correspondence I had from them was in 2015!
    Are they actually asking for payment or is it info-only?
    Asking for payment. Included was a "Resolvecall" letter saying they would visit if I don't pay or call them. Which I'm not.
    You could front it out with Resolvecall, if they knock on your door, otherwise keep on ignoring them, if they get too annoying send the statute barred letter (again).

    I`m quite surprised actually as when 1st Credit remodelled itself into Intrum, one of the pre-requisites set by the FCA in order to keep there operating licence was that they played by the rules, or face further sanctions.

    Chasing a ten year old clearly statute barred debt doesn't fall into that category now does it.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • fatbelly
    fatbelly Posts: 23,014 Forumite
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    edited 25 November 2023 at 1:31PM
    Particularly as the FCA warned debt buyers about exactly this earlier in the year as part of the Consumer Duty rules

    It's towards the end of this letter

    https://www.fca.org.uk/publication/correspondence/consumer-duty-portfolio-letter-dpca.pdf
  • It's the fact that I've been "debt free" for a number of years now and my last default and CCJ drop off my credit files next year. Now I starting to have old business like this resurrecting itself out of the woodwork.
  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 35,701 Forumite
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    Either sit it out and wait for them to blink, or go for them if they are really upsetting you. But do think thrice about whether you want to waste your energy on this lot?

    You could send a prove it letter, and if they accept the debt is statue barred, or don't respond, make a formal complaint citing the FCA guidance fatbelly had flagged up with some compensation, and you refer the matter to the FCA?

    But are they worth your time and energy?
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • They are not worth my energy, no.

    I even still have the prove-it response I got all those years ago from 1st Credit which was a bundle of copy statements from the original creditor. The last time anything was paid on the account is showing as 2006 and I've 100% not paid anything on it since!

    Also it's only for £300 so it's not a huge payday they are hoping for.
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