What's British Gas's calorific value for quarterly billing?

PoGee

I can usually get publicised info online easily but can't seem to find it for price changes July 2023. I'm based West of Scotland. Does anyone know what the calorific value, standing charge and unit rate is for quarterly bills? An energy article said it was 39.3 but no date on article. My bill says it's higher. Just wondering if it is meant to be 39.3. 

la531983

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-9714/CBP-9714.pdf

Page 30.

There is no region called "West Scotland", you will either be in the North or the South.

Is it possible you are on a dual rate tarriff such as Economy 7? If so those rates dont apply, you will have two rates, one being cheaper than the other, which average out to those rates based on a formula of 58/42 split usage.

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PoGee said:

I can usually get publicised info online easily but can't seem to find it for price changes July 2023. I'm based West of Scotland. Does anyone know what the calorific value, standing charge and unit rate is for quarterly bills? An energy article said it was 39.3 but no date on article. My bill says it's higher. Just wondering if it is meant to be 39.3. 

The calorific value of your gas changes each day. Your supplier is required by Ofgem regulation to use the average calorific value for your billing period. The average has to be truncated to one decimal point. 

You can check your calorific value by going to this site:

https://www.nationalgas.com/data-and-operations/calorific-value-cv

badmemory

I found the calorific value of gas very interesting when BG took over from Peoples Energy.  For a long time with PE the calorific value had been between 39.2 & 39.5.  Interestingly as soon as BG took over it went up to 39.8 to 40.1.  Overnight.  So which one of them was getting it wrong & if it was PE would it have saved them?

QrizB

badmemory said:

I found the calorific value of gas very interesting when BG took over from Peoples Energy.  For a long time with PE the calorific value had been between 39.2 & 39.5.  Interestingly as soon as BG took over it went up to 39.8 to 40.1.  Overnight.  So which one of them was getting it wrong & if it was PE would it have saved them?

People's Energy went bust at the same time that the UK ramped up imports of LNG (both had the same cause, a restriction on supplies of gas to Europe from Russia). I understand LNG has a higher calorific value than North Sea gas.

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QrizB said:

badmemory said:

I found the calorific value of gas very interesting when BG took over from Peoples Energy.  For a long time with PE the calorific value had been between 39.2 & 39.5.  Interestingly as soon as BG took over it went up to 39.8 to 40.1.  Overnight.  So which one of them was getting it wrong & if it was PE would it have saved them?

People's Energy went bust at the same time that the UK ramped up imports of LNG (both had the same cause, a restriction on supplies of gas to Europe from Russia). I understand LNG has a higher calorific value than North Sea gas.

54 MJ/kg to 56 MJ/kg depending on the composition. It has to be mixed with other gas to remain with UK limits.

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/sites/default/files/docs/2014/08/supplier_guidance_on_cv_calculation.pdf

We do like a good conspiracy on this forum. Suppliers got sanctioned for using fixed calorific values.

badmemory

No conspiracy here.  Just wondering why PE in all sept were charging 39.4 & in Oct BG were charging 40.0.  Just seemed a bit of an extreme change compared with other changes.

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badmemory said:

No conspiracy here.  Just wondering why PE in all sept were charging 39.4 & in Oct BG were charging 40.0.  Just seemed a bit of an extreme change compared with other changes.

Because it changes by region and by day:

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Hi,

all my last statements are stating 38.8.

Have you worked out what the difference was with  ''PE in all sept were charging 39.4 & in Oct BG were charging 40.0.''.