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Solar / Battery quote -sanity check please

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  • 94JDH
    94JDH Posts: 146 Forumite
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    tim_p said:

    Just had a quote to add another system alongside my existing setup (2014 install, 16x250w, 3 roofs, SolarEdge, 4kWp, FIT)

    Quote comprises 

    3.6kWp (8x450w) over 3 roofs (so lots of scaffolding)

    SolarEdge SE3000H inverter

    GivEnergy 5.2kWh battery

    All fixings etc, new CU if reqd

    Cost £12200

    Agree with comments from others - based on quotes I've seen as recently as this month, you should be paying no more than £5500 installed for 8 SHARP 410W Black panels and the SE 3000 inverter. 20 year extended warranty included.

    I'm surprised to see a quote with a GivEnergy battery married to a SE inverter (high on my recommended list btw) - I didn't know they were compatible without a controller. If you want an external battery, the SE 10kW battery would be an extra £8K installed but I'd suggest crunching the numbers to see if a battery makes sense (vs. exporting to Flux).
    It's likely the quote is missing some detail in relation to the battery & likely to include a Givenergy AC inverter which will bump up the price a bit as well.
    PV total 19.8 kW system:
    23 x 420W East/West split over two flat roof areas at 10 degrees inclination.
    13 x 390W South spit over two flat roof areas at 5 to 20 degrees inclination.
    6 x 390W south wall mounted at 90 degrees inclination.
    7 x 390W West wall mounted at 90 degrees inclination.
    2 x 5 kW hybrid inverters
    4 x 9.5 kWh batteries (38 kWh total)
  • tim_p
    tim_p Posts: 878 Forumite
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    94JDH said:
    tim_p said:

    Just had a quote to add another system alongside my existing setup (2014 install, 16x250w, 3 roofs, SolarEdge, 4kWp, FIT)

    Quote comprises 

    3.6kWp (8x450w) over 3 roofs (so lots of scaffolding)

    SolarEdge SE3000H inverter

    GivEnergy 5.2kWh battery

    All fixings etc, new CU if reqd

    Cost £12200

    Agree with comments from others - based on quotes I've seen as recently as this month, you should be paying no more than £5500 installed for 8 SHARP 410W Black panels and the SE 3000 inverter. 20 year extended warranty included.

    I'm surprised to see a quote with a GivEnergy battery married to a SE inverter (high on my recommended list btw) - I didn't know they were compatible without a controller. If you want an external battery, the SE 10kW battery would be an extra £8K installed but I'd suggest crunching the numbers to see if a battery makes sense (vs. exporting to Flux).
    It's likely the quote is missing some detail in relation to the battery & likely to include a Givenergy AC inverter which will bump up the price a bit as well.
    Certainly not mentioned on the quote anywhere. 
  • 94JDH
    94JDH Posts: 146 Forumite
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    tim_p said:
    94JDH said:
    tim_p said:

    Just had a quote to add another system alongside my existing setup (2014 install, 16x250w, 3 roofs, SolarEdge, 4kWp, FIT)

    Quote comprises 

    3.6kWp (8x450w) over 3 roofs (so lots of scaffolding)

    SolarEdge SE3000H inverter

    GivEnergy 5.2kWh battery

    All fixings etc, new CU if reqd

    Cost £12200

    Agree with comments from others - based on quotes I've seen as recently as this month, you should be paying no more than £5500 installed for 8 SHARP 410W Black panels and the SE 3000 inverter. 20 year extended warranty included.

    I'm surprised to see a quote with a GivEnergy battery married to a SE inverter (high on my recommended list btw) - I didn't know they were compatible without a controller. If you want an external battery, the SE 10kW battery would be an extra £8K installed but I'd suggest crunching the numbers to see if a battery makes sense (vs. exporting to Flux).
    It's likely the quote is missing some detail in relation to the battery & likely to include a Givenergy AC inverter which will bump up the price a bit as well.
    Certainly not mentioned on the quote anywhere. 
    The Givenergy batteries won't work without their dedicated inverters, so something isn't quoted correctly or missing.
    PV total 19.8 kW system:
    23 x 420W East/West split over two flat roof areas at 10 degrees inclination.
    13 x 390W South spit over two flat roof areas at 5 to 20 degrees inclination.
    6 x 390W south wall mounted at 90 degrees inclination.
    7 x 390W West wall mounted at 90 degrees inclination.
    2 x 5 kW hybrid inverters
    4 x 9.5 kWh batteries (38 kWh total)
  • Jonboy1889
    Jonboy1889 Posts: 168 Forumite
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    Ours was an awkward install, 2 roofs at different levels, slate, and cost c£7.5k for 4.7kw with a cheaper inverter.

    it wasn’t the cheapest quote but cheapest often does not mean best- reviews, responsiveness, what will they do when something goes wrong etc. 
  • scubajoe
    scubajoe Posts: 58 Forumite
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    tim_p said:
    scubajoe said:
    Seems a wee bit expensive at first glance, definitely worth getting other quotes. One thing that jumps out is why aren't you considering a Solaredge Home Battery to go with the Solaredge system?
    Re: SolarEdge battery, was advised that they only do a 10kWh option (might have misheard that at the time) and wanted something I could expand if required, ideally myself, which pretty sure can’t be done with SE.
    Really struggling to get more quotes, even to get a reply to an enquiry!  

    With the Solaredge Home Battery you can add batteries no problem. Each inverter can have 3 batteries with a maximum over 3 inverters would allow 9 batteries in total. So in response to your comment, get one battery and if you want more just get another, the physical connection is just a pair of cables like these. 

    https://www.tradesparky.com/solarsparky/batteries/solaredge/solaredge-iac-rbat-rwycbl-01-y-cables
  • tim_p
    tim_p Posts: 878 Forumite
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    scubajoe said:
    tim_p said:
    scubajoe said:
    Seems a wee bit expensive at first glance, definitely worth getting other quotes. One thing that jumps out is why aren't you considering a Solaredge Home Battery to go with the Solaredge system?
    Re: SolarEdge battery, was advised that they only do a 10kWh option (might have misheard that at the time) and wanted something I could expand if required, ideally myself, which pretty sure can’t be done with SE.
    Really struggling to get more quotes, even to get a reply to an enquiry!  

    With the Solaredge Home Battery you can add batteries no problem. Each inverter can have 3 batteries with a maximum over 3 inverters would allow 9 batteries in total. So in response to your comment, get one battery and if you want more just get another, the physical connection is just a pair of cables like these. 

    https://www.tradesparky.com/solarsparky/batteries/solaredge/solaredge-iac-rbat-rwycbl-01-y-cables
    I think the cost of the SE batteries is the issue at the moment. Not sure that I’m gonna need a 10kWh battery to start so prefer the option of being able to start smaller and expand as and when needs arise / funds available etc. 

  • tim_p
    tim_p Posts: 878 Forumite
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    Thanks everyone for the input. Got a survey going ahead on the 7th at a major saving. Neighbour is also getting a survey on same day, so all good. 
  • ispookie666
    ispookie666 Posts: 1,194 Forumite
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    The only thing I'll add is - get the biggest system you can afford and cover your roof as much as possible. 
    The only regret we all have had is not putting enough panels up, adding at a later date is really expensive 
    “Don't raise your voice, improve your argument." - Desmond Tutu

    System 1 - 14 x 250W SunModule SW + Enphase ME215 microinverters (July 2015)
    System 2 - 9.2 KWp + Enphase IQ7+ and IQ8AC (Feb 22 & Sep 24) + Givenergy AC Coupled inverter + 2 * 8.2KWh Battery (May 2022) + Mitsubishi 7.1 KW and 2* Daikin 2.5 KW A2A Heat Pump
  • tim_p
    tim_p Posts: 878 Forumite
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    The only thing I'll add is - get the biggest system you can afford and cover your roof as much as possible. 
    The only regret we all have had is not putting enough panels up, adding at a later date is really expensive 
    Yeah, your regret exactly mirrors mine. I think back in 2014 I would have had issues around going above 4kWp with the DNO. My initial quote to upgrade would have agreed with your “..later date is really expensive” comment but the revised quote, thanks to input from here, isn’t really that different and includes a battery so I’m well chuffed. 
  • yp70479
    yp70479 Posts: 63 Forumite
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    Have you tried ECH? They are based in Fareham and did my install - reasonably priced compared to the other quotes that I had and tend to use ladders or towers (so cheaper than 3 sides of scaffolding which could add a couple of thousand to the price). I don't know if they do Solar Edge stuff though - I just had cheaper Chinese panels (3.2KW) and a Solis inverter and AC3.0/Giv Energy battery (8.2kw) - came to about £8000 last year, but I know prices have gone up A LOT!
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