Most cost effective way to add battery storage?

I have solar PV with a standard inverter in the loft, it's on a 16a circuit of its own, I have no more spare ways in my internal CU but I do have spares in my outdoor CU which has my car charger on. 

If I wanted to add battery storage in the most cost effective way to do so? 
4.29kWp Solar system, 45/55 South/West split in cloudy rainy Cumbria. 

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  • QrizB
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    edited 24 June 2023 at 2:07PM
    Are you thinking of AC-coupled storage, or hybrid? The cost is similar whichever you choose.
    If your system is new enough not to have a FIT (and I think I remember you installing it a year or two ago), hybrid storage might be the best way to go. You'll replace your existing inverter and won't need a new circuit.
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  • Cost effective: wait until the ongoing review of VAT on batteries has been completed.
  • Spies
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    QrizB said:
    Are you thinking of AC-coupled storage, or hybrid? The cost is similar whichever you choose.
    If your system is new enough not to have a FIT (and I think I remember you installing it a year or two ago), hybrid storage might be the best way to go. You'll replace your existing inverter and won't need a new circuit.
    I was thinking this but then my Zappi won't know about the battery if its a hybrid inverter
    4.29kWp Solar system, 45/55 South/West split in cloudy rainy Cumbria. 
  • Petriix
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    Define don't go hybrid with a Zappi. Battery prices are crazy high right now and electricity prices are falling rapidly so the numbers really don't stack up unless you have unusually high peak usage that you can't load shift. Best advice is to wait. 
  • EricMears
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    edited 25 October 2023 at 9:41PM
    Cost effective: wait until the ongoing review of VAT on batteries has been completed.
    Or Hell freezes over - whichever occurs first ?  >:)
    NE Derbyshire.4kWp S Facing 17.5deg slope (dormer roof).24kWh of Pylontech batteries with Lux controller BEV : Hyundai Ioniq5
  • Coastalwatch
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    edited 25 October 2023 at 9:41PM
    EricMears said:
    Cost effective: wait until the ongoing review of VAT on batteries has been completed.
    Or Hell freezes over - whichever occurs first ?  >:)
    Or buy a five year old 40 kWh Leaf for circa £12k. Think you would struggle to get anything cheaper, and you get a car into the bargain!

    East coast, lat 51.97. 8.26kw SSE, 23° pitch + 0.59kw WSW vertical. Nissan Leaf plus Zappi charger and 2 x ASHP's. Givenergy 8.2 & 9.5 kWh batts, 2 x 3 kW ac inverters. Indra V2H . CoCharger Host, Interest in Ripple Energy & Abundance.
  • EricMears
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    Or buy a five year old 40 kWh Leaf for circa £12k. Think you would struggle to get anything cheaper, and you get a car into the bargain!

    According to Autocar listings,
      https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Electric&include-delivery-option=on&make=&postcode=S44%205XF&price-to=7000&sort=price-asc

    You could have an older Leaf (e.g. 2011/12 ) for under £4000.  Battery would be only £24kWh (and probably degraded after 10+ years but still well over 10kWh).    Slight snag in that you'd probably need to spend as much again to be able to get a bi-directional charger unit for it.

    If budget would stretch to £7k  there would be a wider choice of models.
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  • 94JDH
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    PV total 19.8 kW system:
    23 x 420W East/West split over two flat roof areas at 10 degrees inclination.
    13 x 390W South spit over two flat roof areas at 5 to 20 degrees inclination.
    6 x 390W south wall mounted at 90 degrees inclination.
    7 x 390W West wall mounted at 90 degrees inclination.
    2 x 5 kW hybrid inverters
    4 x 9.5 kWh batteries (38 kWh total)
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