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Are Solaredge Optimisers Always Worthwhile?

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  • QrizB
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    As an aside, if anyone else wants to play with solar panels, I see that (after last year's shortage) used panels are once again for sale on the usual auction sites. I paid about £65 each for mine, 27p a watt.
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  • ispookie666
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    I wonder if that’s why shading affects it so much,
    the age and technology of the panel. Has anyone else has done a similar test on their panels? I see the spec for mine says “Less shading effect”, whatever that means. It also says they each have 3 diodes which probably helps.
    A few YouTube videos, albeit a bit long on these. 
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  • Jonboy1889
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    edited 4 June 2023 at 9:29AM
    I wonder if that’s why shading affects it so much,
    the age and technology of the panel. Has anyone else has done a similar test on their panels? I see the spec for mine says “Less shading effect”, whatever that means. It also says they each have 3 diodes which probably helps.
    A few YouTube videos, albeit a bit long on these. 
    https://youtu.be/9GvhDhCSJgo

    this one is quite interesting - and recent, as he covers bypass diodes and how they basically do a very good job of managing most shading, effectively doing a similar job to what optimisers do, just inside the panel rather than out (this is consistent with what I see- I only seem to lose the power output from part or all of the shaded panel, not the rest of the array), in fact he argues that optimisers only give a marginal gain and that is in just certain shading situations.

    it shows how technology has come on a lot with solar which suggests optimisers are not as necessary as they once were. 

    He also makes a point about a lot more points of failure vs just having solar panels which are very simple devices and unlikely to go wrong 



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