Change to Oyster 60+ qualifying age?

katejo

gwynlas said:

Travel passes in remainder of England are now set at State pension age not 65 so 66 and upwards.

This is the same for the Freedom Pass but the oyster 60+ is available earlier. 

t0rt0ise

MilesT6060842 said:

t0rt0ise said:

The 60+ card is a TfL card and nothing to do with the councils therefore there will not be any means testing for them. TfL won't do means testing.

Actually, no, both older persons and disabled freedom passes are funded/managed by London councils, as this document makes clear: https://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/node/4597  Primary legislation (Act of Parliament) says so.

TfL is a partner in the technical implementation, as it provides the services for which the concession has been granted.

Same for the 65 plus version (which gains the ENCTR rose logo, allowing use as a free bus pass elsewhere in England).

So means testing would be possible and practical.

Actually, no. The 60+ card is not a Freedom Pass. It is not called that. Your link clearly says that TfL fund the 60+ card.

zagubov

It's easy to get these muddled up.

Only residents of Greater London get the Oyster 60+. It covers buses, trams, underground, overground, trains. Discounts on cablecars and riverboats.You can use it immediately it arrives even if its before your 60th birthday. Some areas outside the city limits are included. In recent years  I think they introduced an annual renewal check of proof of address which has a small admin fee.

For coaches (depending on the company) you get a discount with proof of age, and trains give a discount if you pay for a senior railcard -which is very good value. This applies to all people of 60+ across England.

In the rest of England the Older Person's Bus Pass is issued on request at state pension age (currently 66) which allows you to use local buses across England free within restricted times (e.g. after 9.30AM and before 11PM on weekdays). It includes buses in London. 

The Freedom Pass which Londoners get is a much better deal; like a combination of the Oyster 60+ and the older person's bus pass.

You can get this to replace your 60+ Oyster card. This website helps explain how to get it.

jbuchanangb

No-one ever mentions that residents of the Liverpool City region aged 60 and over are entitled to a pass for free travel from 9.30am on trains, buses and ferries in the region. This includes train travel outside the region on Merseyrail trains to Ormskirk & Chester.

https://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/tickets-and-pricing/over-60s/

Sadly I live 200 yards over the boundary into Lancashire, so have make do with a Lancashire Country Council issued ENCTS pass.

RAS

If you've got a West Yorkshire SS pass, it's 50% off rail travel within the county, even before 9.30am. But if you travel out after 9.30, you need to decide whether you are returning before or after 4pm, as 4-6pm (maybe 6.30) is peak period.

Still, it's a better deal than the Senior rail pass.

katejo

RAS said:

If you've got a West Yorkshire SS pass, it's 50% off rail travel within the county, even before 9.30am. But if you travel out after 9.30, you need to decide whether you are returning before or after 4pm, as 4-6pm (maybe 6.30) is peak period.

Still, it's a better deal than the Senior rail pass.

What happens if you start the return journey at about 3.00pm and expect to get back by 4pm but the journey is delayed? Do you have to start it and complete it before 4pm?

t0rt0ise

katejo said:

RAS said:

If you've got a West Yorkshire SS pass, it's 50% off rail travel within the county, even before 9.30am. But if you travel out after 9.30, you need to decide whether you are returning before or after 4pm, as 4-6pm (maybe 6.30) is peak period.

Still, it's a better deal than the Senior rail pass.

What happens if you start the return journey at about 3.00pm and expect to get back by 4pm but the journey is delayed? Do you have to start it and complete it before 4pm?

It's usually the start time that matters. If a journey finishes in peak time it makes no difference to the price.

RAS

It is the timetabled start time of the journey back that matters.

I've occasionally had the quarter to train cancel and the guard on the one timetabled at 1 or 2 minutes past the hour allow the cheap day return to be used.

If the quarter to is just running late, they make you wait, however long.