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Is COPE deducted from my forecasted pension

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  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 45,752 Forumite
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    After talking to HMRC Future Pensions Centre I was advised I could pay 10yrs NIC's for circa £6,900 which would then give me 37yrs NICS (up to Jul '24) and therefore my full state pension.

    Did you look at the chart in link in my post above?

  • molerat
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    edited 8 March 2023 at 3:34PM
    Amazing responses, as every. Molerat, info update as follows:

    Current £124.87 pension pw amount accrued up to April 2022
    Number of pre 2016 NI years full - 24 years
    Number of post 2016 NI years full - 1 (21/22 so far, but will be 22/23 and 23/24)
    Financial year you reach state retirement - 2030 (although I'm choosing to retire in July '24)
    Any COPE amount shown - £35.09pw
    Years which show not full and prices - 18 years

    After talking to HMRC Future Pensions Centre I was advised I could pay 10yrs NIC's for circa £6,900 which would then give me 37yrs NICS (up to Jul '24) and therefore my full state pension.

    Hope this makes sense!
    You currently have £124.87
    You are going to get 22-23 & 23-24 by working so taking you to £135.45 leaving you £49.70 short with another 6 years available going forward.
    You can only fill a maximum of 6 gaps from 2015-16 and earlier due to your COPE which will add £4.73 each to the pension amount.
    Years 2016-17 and later will add £5.29 to your pension.
    If you buy 6 pre 2016 and 4 post 2016 you will be 16p short, 5 pre and 5 post will get you to the max.



  • Thanks Molerat, I would never have figured out being 16p short but upon doing your calculations I figured it out and it now makes sense to me. Thank goodness for folk like you on this site xx
  • xylophone said:
    I wanted to check if the COPE of £35.09 pw 

    The COPE was used  once only at 6/4/16  to establish your starting amount for NSP.

    Your starting amount was the higher of

    Old Rules

    NI  qualifying years/30 (max) x £119.30 (Full Basic) + (Additional State Pension - Deduction for Contracting Out).

    New Rules

    {NI qualifying years/35 (max) x £155.65 (Full NSP)} - Contracted Out Pension Equivalent.


    Have a look at the chart on P6 here

    https://www.dpf.org.uk/explorer/files/TOPPING-UP-YOUR-STATE-PENSION-GUIDE.pdf



    Thanks Xylophone, the link was really helpful too!
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