Synthetic alcohol in the future

notexpert23
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edited 3 March 2023 at 4:14PM in Food shopping & groceries
This might save money if it's not addictive.  Health more important I would say.

uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/hangover-free-booze-conjured-controversial-180000072.html
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  • DullGreyGuy
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    A synthetic alternative to alcohol, rather than synthetic alcohol

    Not sure it'll save money, would need to see pricing and its effects are much shorter than alcohol so potentially more expensive if you have to keep drinking rather than stop but maintain the effects. 

    The downside is that 50% of people that tried had no impact and even some of those that did said it was very mild impact (the inventor says its not cumulative so you cant keep drinking to get drunk).

    As its purely functional... a way to get you a little buzz it seems almost more like a drug than alcohol as you're not going to get a 50 year old Malt or 1976 Wine version where the flavour more than the buzz is appreciated.
  • Ditzy_Mitzy
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    A synthetic alternative to alcohol, rather than synthetic alcohol

    Not sure it'll save money, would need to see pricing and its effects are much shorter than alcohol so potentially more expensive if you have to keep drinking rather than stop but maintain the effects. 

    The downside is that 50% of people that tried had no impact and even some of those that did said it was very mild impact (the inventor says its not cumulative so you cant keep drinking to get drunk).

    As its purely functional... a way to get you a little buzz it seems almost more like a drug than alcohol as you're not going to get a 50 year old Malt or 1976 Wine version where the flavour more than the buzz is appreciated.
    Interesting, but entirely as expected.  Experiments have shown that the degree of drunkenness experienced by a drinker of alcohol is often dependent on the environment and social setting.  Alcohol is a depressant, so opening oneself to the effects and acting accordingly is likely to get one drunker than having a couple of drinks for their own sake, on the proviso that one is not drinking to get drunk.  It is even possible to trick experimental subjects into believing they are drunk in situations where no alcohol has actually been consumed; subjects were given drinks they were told contained vodka and, having consumed them, began to act as if they were drunk.  The drinks, in fact, were entirely free of alcohol - one assumes they were flavoured - but the effects of believing one had consumed vodka were similar to the effects of drinking the real thing.  

    With that placebo effect in mind, one will have to tread carefully when it comes to analysing the effects of this synthetic alcohol alternative on human subjects.  Those who believe it will induce a sense of mild intoxication are likely to believe they are experiencing a sense of mild intoxication after consumption; those who believe it will do nothing are likely to experience nothing at all.  The first group may tune in to any physical effects and heighten them through concentrating; the second group are likely to consciously ignore any effects.  
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  • DullGreyGuy
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    Ditzy_Mitzy said:
    With that placebo effect in mind, one will have to tread carefully when it comes to analysing the effects of this synthetic alcohol alternative on human subjects.  Those who believe it will induce a sense of mild intoxication are likely to believe they are experiencing a sense of mild intoxication after consumption; those who believe it will do nothing are likely to experience nothing at all.  The first group may tune in to any physical effects and heighten them through concentrating; the second group are likely to consciously ignore any effects.  
    Yes there were some postulating that those that had an effect were placebo rather than physical
  • notexpert23
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    Ditzy_Mitzy said:
    With that placebo effect in mind, one will have to tread carefully when it comes to analysing the effects of this synthetic alcohol alternative on human subjects.  Those who believe it will induce a sense of mild intoxication are likely to believe they are experiencing a sense of mild intoxication after consumption; those who believe it will do nothing are likely to experience nothing at all.  The first group may tune in to any physical effects and heighten them through concentrating; the second group are likely to consciously ignore any effects.  
    Yes there were some postulating that those that had an effect were placebo rather than physical
    Well this isn't out yet but looks likely in about 4 years.   Nutt says it works

    The herbal one (Sentia) is very mild if it does anything at all.  
  • MrsStepford
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    As I'm not a lab rat, I won't touch synthetic alcohol. I don't walk on nylon carpets, wear man-made fibres (except wet weather gear), eat artificial colours, flavourings and sweeteners..So why would I ?
  • notexpert23
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    As I'm not a lab rat, I won't touch synthetic alcohol. I don't walk on nylon carpets, wear man-made fibres (except wet weather gear), eat artificial colours, flavourings and sweeteners..So why would I ?
    So if you were a smoker you wouldn't touch vaping when it first came out?  

    Just another new thing on the market being developed and you won't be a lab rat because it will be fully tested by time it is released.
  • Ditzy_Mitzy
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    As I'm not a lab rat, I won't touch synthetic alcohol. I don't walk on nylon carpets, wear man-made fibres (except wet weather gear), eat artificial colours, flavourings and sweeteners..So why would I ?
    What do you do when you encounter nylon carpet, then?  I can understand somebody not having them in the house, but not total synthetic carpet avoidance.  Shops, banks, libraries and all manner of public buildings have synthetic carpets, as do cars, trains, airliners and other vehicles.  
  • notexpert23
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    As I'm not a lab rat, I won't touch synthetic alcohol. I don't walk on nylon carpets, wear man-made fibres (except wet weather gear), eat artificial colours, flavourings and sweeteners..So why would I ?
    What do you do when you encounter nylon carpet, then?  I can understand somebody not having them in the house, but not total synthetic carpet avoidance.  Shops, banks, libraries and all manner of public buildings have synthetic carpets, as do cars, trains, airliners and other vehicles.  
    Not sure you understand the use of the word synthetic in this context 🤣
  • Krakkkers
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    They have synthohol in Startrek.
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