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What made you 'pull the trigger'?

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    Thank you @BikingBud Very good, I really enjoyed that. I've been an "Anderson" countless times, but, as a red haired, 5 foot nothing female, in a male dominated profession, I've not hid my frustration quite as well as he did. I don't miss that nonsence one bit!
  • Pensions_matter_2
    Pensions_matter_2 Posts: 102 Forumite
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    Entertaining link - takes me back to all those project meetings, though luckly in my experience most people talked sense!

  • I think I'm in a different category to a lot of people here, in that  I'm in my mid 60s, work in an interesting medical/computing area and actually would like to keep going till well over 70. However, this year I hear nothing in the press but new plans to try and relieve me of the money I've saved, and the pension and SERPS contributions I've made over 45 years, e.g.

    Should the state pension be means-tested?
    Should the tax free lump sum be capped/removed?
    Should there be a maximum on ISA values?
    Labour MPs lobbying for a wealth tax to be in the manifesto.

    My current thinking is that if (or as seems more likely when) Labour get in, they will move on some of these, and maybe it makes more sense to bail out before the next election.  I have no faith that they would be so nuanced as to accept how much cash you need saved in the private sector at 60-something to get a pension remotely comparable to a public sector one

    By converting the lump sum to an annuity I'll drop off the radar of easily targetable savings to be relieved of.  I know you shouldn't let the tax tail wag the investment dog, but it would be madness to work another ten years just to replace the money avoidably taken as tax.
    Anyone else had similar thoughts, or have good reasons not to think this way?  Thanks.
  • Albermarle
    Albermarle Posts: 28,347 Forumite
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    I think I'm in a different category to a lot of people here, in that  I'm in my mid 60s, work in an interesting medical/computing area and actually would like to keep going till well over 70. However, this year I hear nothing in the press but new plans media speculation/scaremongering to try and relieve me of the money I've saved, and the pension and SERPS contributions I've made over 45 years, e.g.

    Should the state pension be means-tested? Unlikely for the foreseeable future, although the removal of the unaffordable triple lock seems likely at some point
    Should the tax free lump sum be capped/removed? Even more unlikely as it would be so unpopular
    Should there be a maximum on ISA values? Maybe one day, but effectively will only mean some tax on values above a certain high level.
    Labour MPs lobbying for a wealth tax to be in the manifesto. Very,very difficult to impliment in practice.

    My current thinking is that if (or as seems more likely when) Labour get in, they will move on some of these, and maybe it makes more sense to bail out before the next election.  I have no faith that they would be so nuanced as to accept how much cash you need saved in the private sector at 60-something to get a pension remotely comparable to a public sector one

    By converting the lump sum to an annuity I'll drop off the radar of easily targetable savings to be relieved of.  I know you shouldn't let the tax tail wag the investment dog, but it would be madness to work another ten years just to replace the money avoidably taken as tax.
    Anyone else had similar thoughts, or have good reasons not to think this way?  Thanks.
    Anyone else had similar thoughts, or have good reasons not to think this way

    Probably best not to believe everything you read in the media and usually best not to plan you financial future based on things that may or may not happen.
  • Pat38493
    Pat38493 Posts: 3,376 Forumite
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    I think I'm in a different category to a lot of people here, in that  I'm in my mid 60s, work in an interesting medical/computing area and actually would like to keep going till well over 70. However, this year I hear nothing in the press but new plans media speculation/scaremongering to try and relieve me of the money I've saved, and the pension and SERPS contributions I've made over 45 years, e.g.

    Should the state pension be means-tested? Unlikely for the foreseeable future, although the removal of the unaffordable triple lock seems likely at some point
    Should the tax free lump sum be capped/removed? Even more unlikely as it would be so unpopular
    Should there be a maximum on ISA values? Maybe one day, but effectively will only mean some tax on values above a certain high level.
    Labour MPs lobbying for a wealth tax to be in the manifesto. Very,very difficult to impliment in practice.

    My current thinking is that if (or as seems more likely when) Labour get in, they will move on some of these, and maybe it makes more sense to bail out before the next election.  I have no faith that they would be so nuanced as to accept how much cash you need saved in the private sector at 60-something to get a pension remotely comparable to a public sector one

    By converting the lump sum to an annuity I'll drop off the radar of easily targetable savings to be relieved of.  I know you shouldn't let the tax tail wag the investment dog, but it would be madness to work another ten years just to replace the money avoidably taken as tax.
    Anyone else had similar thoughts, or have good reasons not to think this way?  Thanks.
    Anyone else had similar thoughts, or have good reasons not to think this way

    Probably best not to believe everything you read in the media and usually best not to plan you financial future based on things that may or may not happen.
    I’m sure chancellors have their eyes on pension assets, but upsetting current or soon to be pensioners may not be electorally advisable.

    Tend to agree, including the point that the triple lock on State Pensions is indefensible and illustrates the electoral power that pensioners wield.  Double lock if defendable but not the 2.5% part.

    Sometimes it feels like a lot of developed democracies spent a large part of the last 15 years printing money and inflating markets, so I am more concerned about market crashes than Labour putting additional taxes - I’m sure we will all have to pay for it one way or another but we cannot know how.


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