House buying - query between what I thought I was buying and what they've decided

Button83

If something is listed on the right move listing as being part of the selling point 
I.e a log burner - right move says entering the lounge with exposed wood beam and log burner 

Would you think that was included in the sale? The agent was telling me how warm the room is when done.so in my thinking it was coming with

We've asked about the log burner because of the survey and they have said they can't find the Heftas cert but they will take it with them with moving.

Part of the reason I was buying it was because of the log burner

Would I be within my rights to ask for a reduction in the selling price for this?

SprostonGreenHead

If you were led to believe the log burner was part of the sale (and a marketing description making reference to it is a good example of that) then I would say it would be reasonable to reduce your offer accordingly (or request they leave it installed).

user1977

You can ask for a price reduction for any (or no) reason you like (or for them to leave the burner) - they're entitled to refuse. Everything is up for negotiation pre-exchange.

housebuyer143

Button83 said:

If something is listed on the right move listing as being part of the selling point 
I.e a log burner - right move says entering the lounge with exposed wood beam and log burner 

Would you think that was included in the sale? The agent was telling me how warm the room is when done.so in my thinking it was coming with

We've asked about the log burner because of the survey and they have said they can't find the Heftas cert but they will take it with them with moving.

Part of the reason I was buying it was because of the log burner

Would I be within my rights to ask for a reduction in the selling price for this?

Yes, if it's on the ad specifically mentioned then you would be inclined to believe it came with..I have had agents tell me explicitly that certain items were not included on the viewing. 

They are probably thinking of taking it as it has no building control sign off and they think it might be easier?

ProDave

Best bet is negotiate a reduction then get one properly installed with the correct paperwork.

TBagpuss

As others have said, you can sek to negotate a discount or ask that it is left, however, if they have stated on the information form it is not being left that's what's binding, you can make the point that the sales details and the agetns comments led you to belive it was included and can also make the point that it's somtething that appears to be part of the fittings not a moveable piece of furtniture, but they are not obliged to agreee and give you a discount .

it may be worth you looking into what getting one installd would cost so yucan decide both how much of a discount to request and whether it is a dealbreaker for you. 
What is happening with property prices in your area? If they are starting to fall, or the market is slower,  then there is more of an incentive for the seller to keep you happy than if they aren't - how easy would they find it to find another buyer if you pulled out? 

ReadingTim

What does the TA10 (fixtures and fittings) form say, if you have received one?  Forget what the ad or the estate agent says - this is something you ought to take up with them via your solicitor.  

Personally I would view a log burner in the same way as I'd regard a freestanding cooker/oven - a fixture which I would expect to remain in situ / left by the vendors, unless it was explicitly stated that it was being removed.  If they are planning on take it, and this wasn't made crystal clear from the outset, I'd reduce my offer by at least the cost of a new item (plus fitting etc).  

SandyCrevice

Button83 said:

Would I be within my rights to ask for a reduction in the selling price for this?

I'd assume a log burner was part of the property and included in the sale, wouldn't everyone? Get quotes to replace it and use that as the basis for a reduction.

liberty_lily

I think a wood burner is completely different from a freestanding cooker/oven - I'd definitely expect a wood burner to be a fixture that was included/staying (especially as most EA's blurb/property descriptions will refer to these), whereas in my experience (eight properties bought/sold) a freestanding cooker/oven will often be referred to as "space for cooker" etc. Ditto other 'white' goods.

I've never come across a listing that has mentioned "space for a wood burner".

In particular if the EA referred verbally to the wood burner during viewings as well as mentioning it in the property listing I would definitely be assuming it was included and offer accordingly. If the vendor then fills out the fixtures and fittings form by saying the said item isn't included or is available at a certain price, I'd be looking to renegotiate. 

sheramber

hey have said they can't find the Heftas cert but they will take it with them with moving.

is that becaue there is no certificate?

You cab search here  https://www.hetas.co.uk/consumer/advice-hub/advice-articles/moving-home/   and get a duplicate.

daveyjp

When our neighbour's moved to a property with a wood burner the vendors said they would be taking it out. 

They had in the contract for removal of the whole thing and damage made good as they weren't intending on fitting a replacement.

Cost the vendors more than if they had left it, but brains can go out of the window when houses are bought and sold.