UW Club rip off?

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UWClub pay my export tariff at 4.1p 
But despite me trying to get an answer to this, they only pay me for 50% of what I generate. Its to cover what I use.

i dont use any, I dont have a storage system.
For 10 years I have been trying to get them to stop cheating me. Its a disgrace.




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  • paul991
    paul991 Posts: 367 Forumite
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    are you seg  or fit
  • Officer_Dibble
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    Must be FIT, as SEG didn't start until 2020. The 50% "deemed" assumption dates from a time when the meters couldn't work out how much was used and how much exported doesn't it? They're not cheating you, it was just decreed that that was the assumption that should be used. I thought there was a generation payment for FIT though as well as the export payment?
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  • Ectophile
    Ectophile Posts: 7,379 Forumite
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    You don't use any of the electricity you generate?
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
  • EricMears
    EricMears Posts: 3,250 Forumite
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    robrac said:
    UWClub pay my export tariff at 4.1p 
    But despite me trying to get an answer to this, they only pay me for 50% of what I generate. Its to cover what I use.

    i dont use any, I dont have a storage system.
    For 10 years I have been trying to get them to stop cheating me. Its a disgrace.




    It's not UWC 'cheating you'  :  the FIT rules are the same for all providers.

    Hard to see how you could "not use any" electricity ?  Unless of course you have a set of panels in an otherwise empty field - and I'm not even sure if that would qualify for the FIT scheme which I understood was aimed at existing electricity account holders.
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  • Reed_Richards
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    Presumably you are on the FIT scheme and are paid for deemed export.  If you don't like your FIT company you are perfectly at liberty to switch to another one; they don't have to be the same as your electricity provider.  If you have a smart meter that can measure what you actually export then it should be possible to switch to being paid for actual rather than deemed export.  Don't stick with UWClub, take your custom elsewhere.    
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  • Ectophile
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    SMETS2 smart meters are supposed to be able to measure export, so you can be paid correctly for what you export.  But some suppliers are set in their ways and are much happier just paying the 50%.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
  • [Deleted User]
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    Ectophile said:
    SMETS2 smart meters are supposed to be able to measure export, so you can be paid correctly for what you export.  But some suppliers are set in their ways and are much happier just paying the 50%.
    Solar owners can choose SEG payments in lieu of deemed export. SEG will be paid for the actual amount of electricity exported as recorded by a smart meter. The FIT payment element is retained. Any decision to forgo export payments can be reversed after 12 months.

  • robrac
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    My point is this,
    all the way through I have been trying to get an answer to this from UW.
    Once I asked why they were paying me this (X divided by 2 times by 4.1p)
    when another Company is paying 
    X times by 15.0p??

    its not complicated.


  • Petriix
    Petriix Posts: 2,076 Forumite
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    robrac said:
    My point is this,
    all the way through I have been trying to get an answer to this from UW.
    Once I asked why they were paying me this (X divided by 2 times by 4.1p)
    when another Company is paying 
    X times by 15.0p??

    its not complicated.


    It is complicated because of the FIT scheme rules. However you can (and probably should) install an export meter and opt out of the deemed export payments. You can get metered payments under the FIT scheme or you can opt out of the FIT exports entirely and sign up for SEG payments, but it's worth ensuring you have all your ducks in a row for the SEG before committing to the switch.

    I believe you automatically opt in on a per year basis for the deemed exports so you may need to opt out for the anniversary of the commissioning date. I'd be really interested in hearing from anyone who has successfully switched from deemed exports to SEG payments as this has become a viable option for me now. 
  • 1961Nick
    1961Nick Posts: 2,087 Forumite
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    robrac said:
    My point is this,
    all the way through I have been trying to get an answer to this from UW.
    Once I asked why they were paying me this (X divided by 2 times by 4.1p)
    when another Company is paying 
    X times by 15.0p??

    its not complicated.


    It's not complicated, the FIT payment for export is set by OFGEM, not your supplier.
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