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Overpay or save?
vernall
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Hi guys, I posted this yesterday but possibly in wrong forum so apologies
Current mortgage owing is £134,000 with 18 years left of a 20 year mortgage.
Since the mortgage started I have overpay £500 every month and each December i have overpaid a lump sum. £6000 last year and £5000 this year.
I am 2 years into a 5 year fix of 1.89%
So now I can get a 3% ISA from Virgin, my head is saying put this £500 every month and the lump sum into there instead of overpaying it. I do also understand I am not gonna be able to get a rate of 1.89% in 3 years time (I doubt) and that each year my 10% I can overpay will be less and less so won't be able to directly overpay such a large lump sum.
This is where I am either doing something wrong or understanding something wrong.
I use the mortgage overpayment calculator on MSE as it shows you the difference between overpaying versus saving.
I have taken the lump sum out of the equation as it does not allow me to add a lump sum every year, just a one off.
The results say I will save £11,110 in interest and pay the mortgage off 8 years sooner by overpaying my £500 p/m
Vs
£10,050 in interest in the ISA for depositing £500 p/m
So a net gain of £1,070 for overpaying
Why is this so? Surely the 3% in savings is better than 1.89% interest from the mortgage
There will be a simple answer for this I am sure haha
Current mortgage owing is £134,000 with 18 years left of a 20 year mortgage.
Since the mortgage started I have overpay £500 every month and each December i have overpaid a lump sum. £6000 last year and £5000 this year.
I am 2 years into a 5 year fix of 1.89%
So now I can get a 3% ISA from Virgin, my head is saying put this £500 every month and the lump sum into there instead of overpaying it. I do also understand I am not gonna be able to get a rate of 1.89% in 3 years time (I doubt) and that each year my 10% I can overpay will be less and less so won't be able to directly overpay such a large lump sum.
This is where I am either doing something wrong or understanding something wrong.
I use the mortgage overpayment calculator on MSE as it shows you the difference between overpaying versus saving.
I have taken the lump sum out of the equation as it does not allow me to add a lump sum every year, just a one off.
The results say I will save £11,110 in interest and pay the mortgage off 8 years sooner by overpaying my £500 p/m
Vs
£10,050 in interest in the ISA for depositing £500 p/m
So a net gain of £1,070 for overpaying
Why is this so? Surely the 3% in savings is better than 1.89% interest from the mortgage
There will be a simple answer for this I am sure haha
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How long will the 3% be running? If mortgage rates go up will the ISA rate go up too?
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Higher interest savings will always beat lower interest mortgage.
The calculator isn't comparing like for like.
You save £11,110 in interest over the course of the mortgage (18 years) but the calculation for 3% interest is only for 10 years (doesn't include the next 8 years of higher interest).
After 10 years your options with the monthly £500 are to have
a) save = savings of ~70k - mortgage of ~65k
b) overpay = savings 0 - mortgage 0.
Obviously a) is better.
Imagine for next 8 years you now stop overpaying.
Option a) With no extra deposit your ~70k becomes ~84k after 8 years.
Option b) You now have mortgage payment of ~£725 to save. Savings at 3% gives you ~£79k after 8 years.
Hence over 18 years savings better by ~6k.
But in some ways the comparison to look at is in 3 years
Option a) save = savings 18,810 - mortgage of 114,710 = debt of 95700
Option a) overpay = Mortgage of 96,210
So option a still better, by £500
N.B. Should note this relies on you not spending the overpayments of course!1
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