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Solar maths not adding up
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ABrass said:A three story climb might be a bit too much for ladders.
Around here they use a Tower scaffolding which you can hire for £50-100 a day, there is a new 1600 house estate being built with 3 and 4-story buildings just up the road from me, with every building having solar installed using Towers. But they do have some 22mt loaders and a crane, which is handy.
SW/Devon lat50.3*, Longi half cut cells 2x 400w + 2x 420w S/f & 4x 150w SW/f PV. 5kw Reliable Inverter 21kwh LFP battery bank, built to charge E-MCycle E-Bike, and power 90% of my home0 -
hardergamer said:ABrass said:A three story climb might be a bit too much for ladders.
Around here they use a Tower scaffolding which you can hire for £50-100 a day, there is a new 1600 house estate being built with 3 and 4-story buildings just up the road from me, with every building having solar installed using Towers. But they do have some 22mt loaders and a crane, which is handy.
The have however installed some EV charging points3.995kWP SSW facing. Commissioned 7 July 2011. 24 degree pitch (£3.36 /W).
17 Yingli 235 panels
Sunnyboy 4000TL inverter
Sunny Webox
Solar Immersion installed May 2013, after two Solar Immersion lasting just over the guarantee period replaced with Solic 200... no problems since.
13 Feb 2020 LUX AC 3600 and 3 X Pylon Tech 3.5 kW batteries added...
20 January 2024 Daikin ASHP installed2 -
mickyduck55 said:hardergamer said:ABrass said:A three story climb might be a bit too much for ladders.
Around here they use a Tower scaffolding which you can hire for £50-100 a day, there is a new 1600 house estate being built with 3 and 4-story buildings just up the road from me, with every building having solar installed using Towers. But they do have some 22mt loaders and a crane, which is handy.
The have however installed some EV charging points
The new building standards were cut one year short of PV. There was a nine year improvement, which to be fair was great, but eight years in the last part was cut which related to the CO2 impact. The only way to meet that would have been PV panels, (or possibly a net solution, like a small RE farm to balance the estate).
Your thoughts mirror mine, with scaffolding on site, the roof being built PV friendly (brackets already installed, or in-roof PV), first fix running all the cables, etc etc. Other than the work of fitting rails and the panels, I doubt the other additional labour would be much at all, so really it's just the wholesale cost of all the kit, and bought with economies of volume if a whole estate. What a lost opportunity.
*At the same time, the demand side PV subsidy was cut, then ended. PV and off-shore wind were removed from the CfD subsidy mechanism, planning for wind was made as good as impossible, the insulation and efficiency programmes were changed (for ones that failed completely), and so on. Most of this has been reversed in the last year or two, but I'm not sure if building standards have been lifted (compulsory) yet.Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.
For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.2 -
The energy crisis has clearly made house buyers much more aware of the EPC rating. The cost of installing solar on a new build may now be less than the increase in selling price afforded by the increase in EPC rating?4kWp (black/black) - Sofar Inverter - SSE(141°) - 30° pitch - North LincsInstalled June 2013 - PVGIS = 3400Sofar ME3000SP Inverter & 5 x Pylontech US2000B Plus & 3 x US2000C Batteries - 19.2kWh1
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I've got the impression that although buidling regs don't get PV etc into plans, there are a lot of planning authorities that are now making it a condition of consent for new residential developments.4.3kW PV, 3.6kW inverter. Octopus Agile import, gas Tracker. Zoe. Ripple x 3. Cheshire1
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