Solar Panel - Any Views on this ?

Hi

I am looking to do a complete re-roof on my property and have had a few quotes.  This seems to be the best one and I am looking for some technical view on the equipment rather than what the cost is as I have managed to reduce costs down a fair bit.  I am still unsure of the in-roof integrated solutions as there are mixed views about them over the web but any views on below is much appreciated:

Marley Solar Tile 335w solar panel                   11
SAJ Hybrid 3.6kw Dual inverter                          1
**NET** Emlite Bi-directional Meter ECA2.nv     1 
AC isolator - KN Newbury 20A 4-pole                 2
SAJ 5.12kw Lithium Battery                                2

I use around 10,000 KW of electricity a year - I have 2 EV's.  The system is estimated to produce 3000Kw per annum according to the calcs

Thanks

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  • moo_juicemoo_juice Forumite
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    You are lucky to get quotes, I've been trying several companies. Only Light Renewables responded and it was nearly £1000 dearer and smaller battery than a quote posted by someone else here a few weeks ago. 
    Who did you get your quotes from can I ask? Local or national co's?
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    ScrewdrivaScrewdriva Forumite
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    edited 29 November 2022 at 11:36AM
    Sorry to share, your components are at the very lower end of the quality spectrum. Hope you won't mind 3 questions: 

    1) Have you considered REC's in roof panels (365W) which are far superior while still fitting into the integrated pod?

    2) Also, does your annual consumption justify the massive spend on batteries? Asked another way, have you used this calculator to determine this?

    3) Definitely ditch SAJ components and go with a more reputed inverter like SolarEdge. Whereabouts are you located?

    -  10 x 400w LG BiFacial Panels + SE P505 Optimizers + SE 3680 HD Wave Inverter. SE London (Zone 2). 
    -  40% of panels in an East/ West rooftop orientation.
    -  Viessmann 200-W on Advanced Weather Comp. (the most efficient gas boiler sold)
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    aj9648aj9648 Forumite
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    edited 29 November 2022 at 1:58PM
    Sorry to share, your components are at the very lower end of the quality spectrum. Hope you won't mind 3 questions: 

    1) Have you considered REC's in roof panels (365W) which are far superior while still fitting into the integrated pod?

    2) Also, does your annual consumption justify the massive spend on batteries? Asked another way, have you used this calculator to determine this?

    3) Definitely ditch SAJ components and go with a more reputed inverter like SolarEdge. Whereabouts are you located?

    I am in Manchester.  Based on current prices and calcs its around 12.5 years payback
  • ABrassABrass Forumite
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    Can you get more panels on your roof? Say 10kW?
    8kW (4kW WNW, 4kW SSE) 6kW inverter. 6.5kWh battery.
  • RealtimeBluesRealtimeBlues Forumite
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    aj9648 said:
    Sorry to share, your components are at the very lower end of the quality spectrum. Hope you won't mind 3 questions: 

    1) Have you considered REC's in roof panels (365W) which are far superior while still fitting into the integrated pod?

    2) Also, does your annual consumption justify the massive spend on batteries? Asked another way, have you used this calculator to determine this?

    3) Definitely ditch SAJ components and go with a more reputed inverter like SolarEdge. Whereabouts are you located?

    I am in Manchester.  Based on current prices and calcs its around 12.5 years payback
    When you buy a car you dont think "pay back", see it as an a selling point for your house and doing your bit to reduce grid usage.
  • edited 29 November 2022 at 2:27PM
    2nd_time_buyer2nd_time_buyer Forumite
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    edited 29 November 2022 at 2:27PM
    aj9648 said:
    Sorry to share, your components are at the very lower end of the quality spectrum. Hope you won't mind 3 questions: 

    1) Have you considered REC's in roof panels (365W) which are far superior while still fitting into the integrated pod?

    2) Also, does your annual consumption justify the massive spend on batteries? Asked another way, have you used this calculator to determine this?

    3) Definitely ditch SAJ components and go with a more reputed inverter like SolarEdge. Whereabouts are you located?

    I am in Manchester.  Based on current prices and calcs its around 12.5 years payback
    When you buy a car you dont think "pay back", see it as an a selling point for your house and doing your bit to reduce grid usage.
    Have you checked the payback period without the battery. I expect it will be a lot shorter.

    I am not sure I fully get the car analogy. You can't drive to work on a solar panel (well I suppose you could use it to charge a car...). Without considering the payback period - I think solar panels are more akin to redecorating the lounge i.e. it may not be to everyone's taste.


  • ScrewdrivaScrewdriva Forumite
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    aj9648 said:
    Sorry to share, your components are at the very lower end of the quality spectrum. Hope you won't mind 3 questions: 

    1) Have you considered REC's in roof panels (365W) which are far superior while still fitting into the integrated pod?

    2) Also, does your annual consumption justify the massive spend on batteries? Asked another way, have you used this calculator to determine this?

    3) Definitely ditch SAJ components and go with a more reputed inverter like SolarEdge. Whereabouts are you located?

    I am in Manchester.  Based on current prices and calcs its around 12.5 years payback
    In roof panels are a bit more costly but current payback for a £5.8K on roof system (Sharp panels/ SolarEdge optimizers + inverter) is approximately < 6 years (assuming you sell excess via Outgoing Agile). As @2nd_time_buyer says, I'd skip the battery for a quicker return.

    -  10 x 400w LG BiFacial Panels + SE P505 Optimizers + SE 3680 HD Wave Inverter. SE London (Zone 2). 
    -  40% of panels in an East/ West rooftop orientation.
    -  Viessmann 200-W on Advanced Weather Comp. (the most efficient gas boiler sold)
  • Alnat1Alnat1 Forumite
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    As you have EVs, you would possibly choose an EV tariff and a lower paid SEG tariff. Cheap overnight charging might work out better for you, over Agile Octopus Then it makes sense to have a battery and fill it at the same time and try to shift other household use to those hours too (washer/dishwasher/dryer)

    Payback time needs to be considered but it's not the most important thing. It's only a best guess anyway, nobody knows how prices will be over the next 10-20 years.
    Barnsley, South Yorkshire
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    Agile/ Outgoing Agile and Tracker gas
  • aj9648aj9648 Forumite
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    ABrass said:
    Can you get more panels on your roof? Say 10kW?
    Nope - maximising the south roof with 11 
  • ABrassABrass Forumite
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    aj9648 said:
    ABrass said:
    Can you get more panels on your roof? Say 10kW?
    Nope - maximising the south roof with 11 
    How about East and West aspects?
    8kW (4kW WNW, 4kW SSE) 6kW inverter. 6.5kWh battery.
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