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Added pension
horsewithnoname
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I’m in the pcsps Alpha only now as I’ve partly retired and taken all my Classic (subject to McCloud). I’m now 60 years old.
I have looked at buying added Alpha, but £50 a month for one year would by me about £40 of extra pension p.a. Is that a decent rate of return? On the face of it, it looks low, but of course it’s for life and index linked ( as it stands now) so maybe it’s not that bad? Or would I be better just putting in savings, or investing though I know nothing about investing.
I have looked at buying added Alpha, but £50 a month for one year would by me about £40 of extra pension p.a. Is that a decent rate of return? On the face of it, it looks low, but of course it’s for life and index linked ( as it stands now) so maybe it’s not that bad? Or would I be better just putting in savings, or investing though I know nothing about investing.
Might be a bit moot depending on how prices go, but as I get a decent pension increase next April it’s something I’m thinking about.
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Is that £50 the real cost or before any tax saving you may benefit from?horsewithnoname said:I’m in the pcsps Alpha only now as I’ve partly retired and taken all my Classic (subject to McCloud). I’m now 60 years old.
I have looked at buying added Alpha, but £50 a month for one year would by me about £40 of extra pension p.a. Is that a decent rate of return? On the face of it, it looks low, but of course it’s for life and index linked ( as it stands now) so maybe it’s not that bad? Or would I be better just putting in savings, or investing though I know nothing about investing.Might be a bit moot depending on how prices go, but as I get a decent pension increase next April it’s something I’m thinking about.
If not it could be you would be only be paying £480 (net of tax relief). For one year.
In return you could be getting maybe £384 (net of basic rate tax). With uncapped inflation protection. Every year. From NPA for the rest of your life.
Could you do better with your £50/month?2 -
As stated by D&C above, that £50 is a gross contribution before tax, so the cost to you would be £40/month (£480/year) net of tax relief assuming you are a basic rate tax payer (even better if you are HRT payer).Monthly contributions from April 2023 will buy you £41.42 of added pension, index-linked for life. So the 'return' on your investment is around 8.6% (41.42/480*100), index linked for life at age 67. Assuming you will pay basic rate tax on that pension when you receive it, it's a 6.9% return after tax ((41.42-20%)/480*100). As D&C asks above, do you think you can get a better return elsewhere?Note: I must declare an interest here, as I purchase large amounts of Alpha added pension every month so my opinion may be biased.Our green credentials: 12kW Samsung ASHP for heating, 7.2kWp Solar (South facing), Tesla Powerwall 3 (13.5kWh), Net exporter1
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"return of 8.6% or 6.9%" is slightly misleading though - to get these regular payments, you need to give up your right to the original £50 that you paid each month. So it's not directly comparable with other investments where you get x% return ON TOP OF your original money.
Closest comparison is probably with buying an annuity - it depends on the age you can start getting the payments, but (assuming 65, and RPI inflation linked) it's still a better deal than I can see available on the 'best buy' tables online.
Another thing worth considering is whether you could gain some flexibility by saving elsewhere, or into a separate personal defined contribution pension. It's unlikely to be as good a deal in raw financial terms, but might mean you can access the extra money at a time of your choosing; and also gives the option of keeping it in a DC pension scheme which can be inherited.2 -
Thank you. I suspected it was probably better than it looked at first sight. I didn’t realise the £50 was before tax relief so that makes it better.I’ll give it due thought, and not being able to access it is a plus really - there’s always something you need to spend it on if you can access it 😉1
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